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From: Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@kernel.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>, Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@loongson.cn>,
	loongarch@lists.linux.dev,
	 linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Xuefeng Li <lixuefeng@loongson.cn>,
	 Xuerui Wang <kernel@xen0n.name>,
	Jiaxun Yang <jiaxun.yang@flygoat.com>,
	 Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	 Rui Wang <wangrui@loongson.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 2/2] LoongArch: Add qspinlock support
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2022 22:25:12 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAhV-H6Q9XBX6ueSKRTQEHYw3moxvKVyPOOondMe5NHkxdhdZw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a0YT_gWNk1v99KgYPf3KhmAOeLyMBeLxsr_th9C59Deyg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, Arnd,

On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 7:49 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 8:54 AM Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 10:04 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 3:05 PM Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > If there is an architected feature bit for the delay, does that mean that there
> > > is a chance of CPUs getting released that set this to zero?
> > I had an offline discussion with hardware engineers, they told me that
> > it is a mandatory requirement for LoongArch to implement "exclusive
> > access of ll" and "random delay of sc" for multi-core chips. Only
> > single-core and dual-core processors (and not support multi-chip
> > interconnection) are allowed to have no such features.
>
> Ok, I see. I suppose the reason is that the dual-core version is safe
> without the random backoff because all uses cases for qspinlock only
> involve one CPU waiting for a lock, right?
Right.

>
> Please put the explanation into the changelog text for the next version. It
> might be helpful to also document this in the source code itself, maybe
> with a boot-time assertion that checks for this guarantee to be held up,
> and an explanation that this is required for using qspinlock.
OK, this will be added to the commit message.

>
> Regardless of this, I think it still makes sense to use the same compile-time
> logic that Guo Ren suggested for the risc-v version, offering a choice between
> ticket spinlock and qspinlock when both make sense, possibly depending
> on CONFIG_NR_CPUS and CONFIG_NUMA.
OK, the dependency seems to make sense.

Huacai
>
>            Arnd
>

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-25 14:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-23  4:47 [PATCH V2 1/2] LoongArch: Add subword xchg/cmpxchg emulation Huacai Chen
2022-06-23  4:47 ` [PATCH V2 2/2] LoongArch: Add qspinlock support Huacai Chen
2022-06-23  5:44   ` Guo Ren
2022-06-23  7:56     ` Huacai Chen
2022-06-23  8:26       ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-06-23  8:32         ` Guo Ren
2022-06-23 13:05         ` Huacai Chen
2022-06-23 14:04           ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-06-25  2:42             ` Guo Ren
2022-06-25  6:22               ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-06-25  6:54             ` Huacai Chen
2022-06-25 11:48               ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-06-25 14:25                 ` Huacai Chen [this message]
2022-06-23  6:49 ` [PATCH V2 1/2] LoongArch: Add subword xchg/cmpxchg emulation Guo Ren
2022-06-23  8:04   ` Huacai Chen
2022-06-23  8:43     ` Guo Ren

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