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From: Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>
To: Lan Tianyu <tianyu.lan@intel.com>,
	bhelgaas@google.com, carolyn.wyborny@intel.com,
	donald.c.skidmore@intel.com, eddie.dong@intel.com,
	nrupal.jani@intel.com, yang.z.zhang@intel.com, agraf@suse.de,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, pbonzini@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	emil.s.tantilov@intel.com, intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org,
	jeffrey.t.kirsher@intel.com, jesse.brandeburg@intel.com,
	john.ronciak@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, matthew.vick@intel.com,
	mitch.a.williams@intel.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	shannon.nelson@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC Patch 00/12] IXGBE: Add live migration support for SRIOV NIC
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 08:03:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <562E40BB.6040404@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <562DBBC9.4000104@intel.com>

On 10/25/2015 10:36 PM, Lan Tianyu wrote:
> On 2015年10月24日 02:36, Alexander Duyck wrote:
>> I was thinking about it and I am pretty sure the dummy write approach is
>> problematic at best.  Specifically the issue is that while you are
>> performing a dummy write you risk pulling in descriptors for data that
>> hasn't been dummy written to yet.  So when you resume and restore your
>> descriptors you will have once that may contain Rx descriptors
>> indicating they contain data when after the migration they don't.
> How about changing sequence? dummy writing Rx packet data fist and then
> its desc. This can ensure that RX data is migrated before its desc and
> prevent such case.

No.  I think you are missing the fact that there are 256 descriptors per 
page.  As such if you dirty just 1 you will be pulling in 255 more, of 
which you may or may not have pulled in the receive buffer for.

So for example if you have the descriptor ring size set to 256 then that 
means you are going to get whatever the descriptor ring has since you 
will be marking the entire ring dirty with every packet processed, 
however you cannot guarantee that you are going to get all of the 
receive buffers unless you go through and flush the entire ring prior to 
migrating.

This is why I have said you will need to do something to force the rings 
to be flushed such as initiating a PM suspend prior to migrating.  You 
need to do something to stop the DMA and flush the remaining Rx buffers 
if you want to have any hope of being able to migrate the Rx in a 
consistent state.  Beyond that the only other thing you have to worry 
about are the Rx buffers that have already been handed off to the 
stack.  However those should be handled if you do a suspend and somehow 
flag pages as dirty when they are unmapped from the DMA.

- Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-26 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-21 16:37 [RFC Patch 00/12] IXGBE: Add live migration support for SRIOV NIC Lan Tianyu
2015-10-21 16:37 ` [RFC Patch 01/12] PCI: Add virtfn_index for struct pci_device Lan Tianyu
2015-10-21 18:07   ` Alexander Duyck
2015-10-24 14:46     ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-10-21 16:37 ` [RFC Patch 02/12] IXGBE: Add new mail box event to restore VF status in the PF driver Lan Tianyu
2015-10-21 20:34   ` Alexander Duyck
2015-10-21 16:37 ` [RFC Patch 03/12] IXGBE: Add sysfs interface for Qemu to migrate " Lan Tianyu
2015-10-21 20:45   ` Alexander Duyck
2015-10-25  7:21     ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-10-21 16:37 ` [RFC Patch 04/12] IXGBE: Add ixgbe_ping_vf() to notify a specified VF via mailbox msg Lan Tianyu
2015-10-21 16:37 ` [RFC Patch 05/12] IXGBE: Add new sysfs interface of "notify_vf" Lan Tianyu
2015-10-21 20:52   ` Alexander Duyck
2015-10-22 12:51     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-24 15:43     ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-10-25  6:03       ` Alexander Duyck
2015-10-25  6:45         ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-10-21 16:37 ` [RFC Patch 06/12] IXGBEVF: Add self emulation layer Lan Tianyu
2015-10-21 20:58   ` Alexander Duyck
2015-10-22 12:50     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-22 15:50       ` Alexander Duyck
2015-10-21 16:37 ` [RFC Patch 07/12] IXGBEVF: Add new mail box event for migration Lan Tianyu
2015-10-21 16:37 ` [RFC Patch 08/12] IXGBEVF: Rework code of finding the end transmit desc of package Lan Tianyu
2015-10-21 21:14   ` Alexander Duyck
2015-10-24 16:12     ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-10-22 12:58   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-24 16:08     ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-10-21 16:37 ` [RFC Patch 09/12] IXGBEVF: Add live migration support for VF driver Lan Tianyu
2015-10-21 21:48   ` Alexander Duyck
2015-10-22 12:46   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-21 16:37 ` [RFC Patch 10/12] IXGBEVF: Add lock to protect tx/rx ring operation Lan Tianyu
2015-10-21 21:55   ` Alexander Duyck
2015-10-22 12:40   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-21 16:37 ` [RFC Patch 11/12] IXGBEVF: Migrate VF statistic data Lan Tianyu
2015-10-22 12:36   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-21 16:37 ` [RFC Patch 12/12] IXGBEVF: Track dma dirty pages Lan Tianyu
2015-10-22 12:30   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-21 18:45 ` [RFC Patch 00/12] IXGBE: Add live migration support for SRIOV NIC Or Gerlitz
2015-10-21 19:20   ` Alex Williamson
2015-10-21 23:26     ` Alexander Duyck
2015-10-22 12:32     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-22 13:01       ` Alex Williamson
2015-10-22 13:06         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-22 15:58     ` Or Gerlitz
2015-10-22 16:17       ` Alex Williamson
2015-10-22 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-23 18:36 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-10-23 19:05   ` Alex Williamson
2015-10-23 20:01     ` Alexander Duyck
2015-10-26  5:36   ` Lan Tianyu
2015-10-26 15:03     ` Alexander Duyck [this message]
2015-10-29  6:12       ` Lan Tianyu
2015-10-29  6:58         ` Alexander Duyck
2015-10-29  8:33           ` Lan Tianyu
2015-10-29 16:17             ` Alexander Duyck
2015-10-30  2:41               ` Lan Tianyu
2015-10-30 18:04                 ` Alexander Duyck

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