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From: Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@gmail.com>
To: George Spelvin <lkml@sdf.org>
Cc: Amit Klein <aksecurity@gmail.com>, Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [DRAFT PATCH] random32: make prandom_u32() output unpredictable
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 23:10:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+icZUVfauaXK0aEDkPPvurM_1M6h_T_iiM9gXixdg_-qustgQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+icZUVnsmf1kXPYFYufStQ_MxnLuxL+EWfDS2wQy1VbAEMwkA@mail.gmail.com>

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- Sedat -

On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 11:01 PM Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi George,
>
> I have tried your patch on top of Linux v5.8 with...
>
> commit f227e3ec3b5c ("random32: update the net random state on
> interrupt and activity")
>
> ...reverted.
> This was a bit tricky - what was your base?
>
> Applied the typo fix from Randy - will a v2 follow?
>
> Why DRAFT and not RFC?
>
> Please drop the CC:stable - it's a DRAFT.
>
> Other Linux stable like linux-5.7.y include...
>
> commit c0842fbc1b18c7a044e6ff3e8fa78bfa822c7d1a
> random32: move the pseudo-random 32-bit definitions to prandom.h
>
> commit 585524081ecdcde1c719e63916c514866d898217
> random: random.h should include archrandom.h, not the other way around
>
> ...linux-5.8.y stable will follow.
>
> Isn't the move to prandom.h making your patch easier to apply?
>
> In a second build I applied the snippet from Willy.
>
> What do you mean by...?
>
> [ quote ]
> I wonder if, on general principles, it would be better to use a more
> SipHash style mixing in of the sample:
>     m = get_cycles();
>     v3 ^= m;
>     SIPROUND(v0, v1, v2, v3);
>     SIPROUND(v0, v1, v2, v3);
>     v0 ^= m;
>
> Not sure if it's worth the extra register (and associated spill/fill).
> [ /quote ]
>
> Have you a snippet for testing?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> - Sedat -

       reply	other threads:[~2020-08-09 21:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CA+icZUVnsmf1kXPYFYufStQ_MxnLuxL+EWfDS2wQy1VbAEMwkA@mail.gmail.com>
2020-08-09 21:10 ` Sedat Dilek [this message]
     [not found] ` <20200809235412.GD25124@SDF.ORG>
     [not found]   ` <20200810034948.GB8262@1wt.eu>
     [not found]     ` <20200811053455.GH25124@SDF.ORG>
     [not found]       ` <20200811054328.GD9456@1wt.eu>
     [not found]         ` <20200811062814.GI25124@SDF.ORG>
     [not found]           ` <20200811074538.GA9523@1wt.eu>
2020-08-11 10:51             ` [DRAFT PATCH] random32: make prandom_u32() output unpredictable Sedat Dilek
2020-08-11 11:01               ` Sedat Dilek
2020-08-12  3:21               ` Willy Tarreau
2020-08-13  7:53                 ` Sedat Dilek
2020-08-13  8:06                   ` Willy Tarreau
2020-08-13  8:13                     ` Sedat Dilek
2020-08-13  8:27                       ` Sedat Dilek
2020-08-13 14:00                         ` Eric Dumazet
2020-08-13 16:02                           ` Sedat Dilek
2020-08-14 15:32                     ` Sedat Dilek
2020-08-14 16:05                       ` Willy Tarreau
2020-08-14 16:17                         ` Sedat Dilek
2020-08-16 15:01                           ` Willy Tarreau
2020-08-16 16:48                             ` Sedat Dilek
2020-08-20  3:05                               ` Sedat Dilek
2020-08-20  4:33                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2020-08-20  4:42                                   ` Sedat Dilek
2020-08-20  6:08                                     ` Willy Tarreau
2020-08-20  6:58                                       ` Willy Tarreau
2020-08-20  8:05                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2020-08-20 12:08                                           ` Sedat Dilek
     [not found]                                           ` <CANEQ_+L+22Hkdqf38Zr0bfq16fcL1Ax2X9fToXV_niHKXCB8aA@mail.gmail.com>
2020-08-27  1:09                                             ` Willy Tarreau
2020-08-27  7:08                                               ` Sedat Dilek
2020-08-08 15:26 Flaw in "random32: update the net random state on interrupt and activity" George Spelvin
2020-08-09  6:57 ` [DRAFT PATCH] random32: make prandom_u32() output unpredictable George Spelvin
2020-08-09  9:38   ` Willy Tarreau
2020-08-09 17:06     ` George Spelvin
2020-08-09 17:33       ` Willy Tarreau
2020-08-09 18:30         ` George Spelvin
2020-08-09 19:16           ` Willy Tarreau
2020-08-10 11:47           ` Willy Tarreau
2020-08-10 12:01             ` David Laight
2020-08-10 14:48               ` Willy Tarreau
2020-08-10 12:03             ` Florian Westphal
2020-08-10 14:53               ` Willy Tarreau
2020-08-10 16:31             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-08-10 16:58               ` Willy Tarreau
2020-08-10 17:45                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-08-10 18:01                   ` Willy Tarreau
2020-08-10 21:04                   ` Willy Tarreau
2020-08-11  5:26                     ` George Spelvin
2020-08-11  5:37                       ` Willy Tarreau
2020-08-11  3:47             ` George Spelvin
2020-08-11  3:58               ` Willy Tarreau
     [not found]     ` <fdbc7d7d-cba2-ef94-9bde-b3ccae0cfaac@gmail.com>
2020-08-09 21:10       ` Marc Plumb
2020-08-09 21:48         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-08-09 13:50   ` Randy Dunlap
     [not found]   ` <CANEQ_++a4YcwQQ2XhuguTono9=RxbSRVsMw08zLWBWJ_wxG2AQ@mail.gmail.com>
2020-08-09 16:08     ` George Spelvin

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