From: Don Dutile <ddutile@redhat.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: "Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
"Keith Busch" <keith.busch@intel.com>,
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"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
"Benjamin Herrenschmidt" <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
"Max Gurtovoy" <maxg@mellanox.com>,
"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 04/14] PCI/P2PDMA: Clear ACS P2P flags for all devices behind switches
Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 11:47:31 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f0d25e16-1201-1fc5-334f-4205abc95500@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180508180157.7c7b393f@w520.home>
On 05/08/2018 08:01 PM, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 8 May 2018 19:06:17 -0400
> Don Dutile <ddutile@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On 05/08/2018 05:27 PM, Stephen Bates wrote:
>>> As I understand it VMs need to know because VFIO passes IOMMU
>>> grouping up into the VMs. So if a IOMMU grouping changes the VM's
>>> view of its PCIe topology changes. I think we even have to be
>>> cognizant of the fact the OS running on the VM may not even support
>>> hot-plug of PCI devices.
>> Alex:
>> Really? IOMMU groups are created by the kernel, so don't know how
>> they would be passed into the VMs, unless indirectly via PCI(e)
>> layout. At best, twiddling w/ACS enablement (emulation) would cause
>> VMs to see different IOMMU groups, but again, VMs are not the
>> security point/level, the host/HV's are.
>
> Correct, the VM has no concept of the host's IOMMU groups, only the
> hypervisor knows about the groups, but really only to the extent of
> which device belongs to which group and whether the group is viable.
> Any runtime change to grouping though would require DMA mapping
> updates, which I don't see how we can reasonably do with drivers,
> vfio-pci or native host drivers, bound to the affected devices. Thanks,
>
> Alex
>
A change in iommu groups would/could require a device remove/add cycle to get an updated DMA-mapping (yet-another-overused-term: iommu 'domain').
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Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-23 23:30 [PATCH v4 00/14] Copy Offload in NVMe Fabrics with P2P PCI Memory Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 01/14] PCI/P2PDMA: Support peer-to-peer memory Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-07 23:00 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-05-07 23:09 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 02/14] PCI/P2PDMA: Add sysfs group to display p2pmem stats Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 03/14] PCI/P2PDMA: Add PCI p2pmem dma mappings to adjust the bus offset Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-07 23:02 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 04/14] PCI/P2PDMA: Clear ACS P2P flags for all devices behind switches Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-24 3:33 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-05-07 23:13 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-05-08 7:17 ` Christian König
2018-05-08 14:25 ` Stephen Bates
2018-05-08 16:37 ` Christian König
2018-05-08 16:27 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-08 16:50 ` Christian König
2018-05-08 19:13 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-08 19:34 ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-08 19:45 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-08 20:13 ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-08 20:19 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-08 20:43 ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-08 20:49 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-08 21:26 ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-08 21:42 ` Stephen Bates
2018-05-08 22:03 ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-08 22:10 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-08 22:25 ` Stephen Bates
2018-05-08 23:11 ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-08 23:31 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-09 0:17 ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-08 22:32 ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-08 23:00 ` Dan Williams
2018-05-08 23:15 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-09 12:38 ` Stephen Bates
2018-05-08 22:21 ` Don Dutile
2018-05-09 12:44 ` Stephen Bates
2018-05-09 15:58 ` Don Dutile
2018-05-08 20:50 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-05-08 21:35 ` Stephen Bates
2018-05-09 13:12 ` Stephen Bates
2018-05-09 13:40 ` Christian König
2018-05-09 15:41 ` Stephen Bates
2018-05-09 16:07 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-05-09 16:30 ` Stephen Bates
2018-05-09 17:49 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-05-10 14:20 ` Stephen Bates
2018-05-10 14:29 ` Christian König
2018-05-10 14:59 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-05-10 18:44 ` Stephen Bates
2018-05-09 16:45 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-10 12:52 ` Christian König
2018-05-10 14:16 ` Stephen Bates
2018-05-10 14:41 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-05-10 18:41 ` Stephen Bates
2018-05-10 18:59 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-10 19:10 ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-10 19:24 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-05-10 16:32 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-10 17:11 ` Stephen Bates
2018-05-10 17:15 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-11 8:52 ` Christian König
2018-05-11 15:48 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-11 21:50 ` Stephen Bates
2018-05-11 22:24 ` Stephen Bates
2018-05-11 22:55 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-08 14:31 ` Dan Williams
2018-05-08 14:44 ` Stephen Bates
2018-05-08 21:04 ` Don Dutile
2018-05-08 21:27 ` Stephen Bates
2018-05-08 23:06 ` Don Dutile
2018-05-09 0:01 ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-09 12:35 ` Stephen Bates
2018-05-09 14:44 ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-09 15:52 ` Don Dutile
2018-05-09 15:47 ` Don Dutile [this message]
2018-05-09 15:53 ` Don Dutile
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 05/14] docs-rst: Add a new directory for PCI documentation Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 06/14] PCI/P2PDMA: Add P2P DMA driver writer's documentation Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-07 23:20 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-05-22 21:24 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-05-22 21:28 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 07/14] block: Introduce PCI P2P flags for request and request queue Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 08/14] IB/core: Ensure we map P2P memory correctly in rdma_rw_ctx_[init|destroy]() Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 09/14] nvme-pci: Use PCI p2pmem subsystem to manage the CMB Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 10/14] nvme-pci: Add support for P2P memory in requests Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] nvme-pci: Add a quirk for a pseudo CMB Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] nvmet: Introduce helper functions to allocate and free request SGLs Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 13/14] nvmet-rdma: Use new SGL alloc/free helper for requests Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 14/14] nvmet: Optionally use PCI P2P memory Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-02 11:51 ` [PATCH v4 00/14] Copy Offload in NVMe Fabrics with P2P PCI Memory Christian König
2018-05-02 15:56 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-03 9:05 ` Christian König
2018-05-03 15:59 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-03 17:29 ` Christian König
2018-05-03 18:43 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-04 14:27 ` Christian König
2018-05-04 15:52 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-07 23:23 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-05-07 23:34 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-08 16:57 ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-08 19:14 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-08 21:25 ` Don Dutile
2018-05-08 21:40 ` Alex Williamson
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