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From: Aaron Lindsay OS via Qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
To: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Cc: "bobby.prani@gmail.com" <bobby.prani@gmail.com>,
	"cota@braap.org" <cota@braap.org>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH  v4 00/54] plugins for TCG
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 16:16:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190910161615.GA20976@quinoa.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875zm5yzgq.fsf@linaro.org>

On Sep 06 20:52, Alex Bennée wrote:
> 
> Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> writes:
> > Please advise why TCG plugins don't undermine the GPL.  Any proposal to
> > add a plugin interface needs to do that.
> 
> I'm not sure what we can say about this apart from "ask your lawyer".
> I'm certainly not proposing we add any sort of language about what
> should and shouldn't be allowed to use the plugin interface. I find it
> hard to see how anyone could argue code written to interface with the
> plugin API couldn't be considered a derived work.

I am not a lawyer, but I would not have expected software merely using a
well-defined API to be considered a derivative work of the software
defining it. Unless, of course, it is a derivative work of another
plugin using the same interface in a way that is not necessitated by the
structure of the API.

What's your reasoning for why it would be a derivative work? Is your
belief that the plugin API is complex enough that anything using it has
to be a derivative work, or something else?

That said, I'm not sure I understand in what way adding a plugin
interface would undermine the GPL, so maybe I'm missing the point.

-Aaron


  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-10 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-31 16:06 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 00/54] plugins for TCG Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 01/54] target/arm: handle M-profile semihosting at translate time Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 02/54] target/arm: handle A-profile T32 " Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 03/54] target/arm: handle A-profile A32 " Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 04/54] target/arm: remove run time semihosting checks Alex Bennée
2019-08-01 13:27   ` Aaron Lindsay OS via Qemu-devel
2019-08-01 13:36     ` Peter Maydell
2019-08-01 14:53   ` Richard Henderson
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 05/54] includes: remove stale [smp|max]_cpus externs Alex Bennée
2019-08-01 14:54   ` Richard Henderson
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 06/54] trace: expand mem_info:size_shift to 4 bits Alex Bennée
2019-08-01 15:01   ` Richard Henderson
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 07/54] trace: add mmu_index to mem_info Alex Bennée
2019-08-01 15:17   ` Richard Henderson
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 08/54] tcg/README: fix typo s/afterwise/afterwards/ Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 09/54] cpu: introduce cpu_in_exclusive_context() Alex Bennée
2019-08-01 15:23   ` Richard Henderson
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 10/54] translate-all: use cpu_in_exclusive_work_context() in tb_flush Alex Bennée
2019-08-01 15:25   ` Richard Henderson
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 11/54] docs/devel: add plugins.rst design document Alex Bennée
2019-08-01 15:31   ` Richard Henderson
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 12/54] configure: add --enable-plugins (MOVE TO END) Alex Bennée
2019-08-01 15:33   ` Richard Henderson
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 13/54] plugin: add user-facing API Alex Bennée
2019-08-01 15:39   ` Richard Henderson
2019-08-02 18:25   ` Aaron Lindsay OS via Qemu-devel
2019-09-06 19:31     ` Alex Bennée
2019-09-10 16:24       ` Aaron Lindsay OS via Qemu-devel
2019-09-10 17:41         ` Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 14/54] plugin: add core code Alex Bennée
2019-08-01 15:58   ` Richard Henderson
2019-09-12  9:17   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 15/54] plugin: add implementation of the api Alex Bennée
2019-08-01 16:14   ` Richard Henderson
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 16/54] queue: add QTAILQ_REMOVE_SEVERAL Alex Bennée
2019-08-01 16:16   ` Richard Henderson
2019-08-01 16:16   ` Richard Henderson
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 17/54] cputlb: document get_page_addr_code Alex Bennée
2019-08-01 17:08   ` Richard Henderson
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 18/54] cputlb: introduce get_page_addr_code_hostp Alex Bennée
2019-08-01 17:10   ` Richard Henderson
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 19/54] tcg: add tcg_gen_st_ptr Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 20/54] plugin-gen: add module for TCG-related code Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 21/54] atomic_template: fix indentation in GEN_ATOMIC_HELPER Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 22/54] atomic_template: add inline trace/plugin helpers Alex Bennée
2019-08-01 18:23   ` Richard Henderson
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 23/54] tcg: let plugins instrument virtual memory accesses Alex Bennée
2019-08-01 18:29   ` Richard Henderson
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 24/54] plugins: implement helpers for resolving hwaddr Alex Bennée
2019-08-01 14:14   ` Aaron Lindsay OS via Qemu-devel
2019-08-01 18:37     ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-09 17:45     ` Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 25/54] translate-all: notify plugin code of tb_flush Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 26/54] *-user: notify plugin of exit Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 27/54] *-user: plugin syscalls Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 28/54] cpu: hook plugin vcpu events Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 29/54] plugin-gen: add plugin_insn_append Alex Bennée
2019-08-01 18:39   ` Richard Henderson
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 30/54] translator: add translator_ld{ub, sw, uw, l, q} Alex Bennée
2019-08-01 19:24   ` Richard Henderson
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 31/54] target/arm: fetch code with translator_ld Alex Bennée
2019-08-01 19:26   ` Richard Henderson
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 32/54] target/ppc: " Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 33/54] target/sh4: " Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 34/54] target/i386: " Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 35/54] target/hppa: " Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 36/54] target/m68k: " Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 37/54] target/alpha: " Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 38/54] target/riscv: " Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 39/54] target/sparc: " Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 40/54] target/xtensa: " Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 41/54] target/openrisc: " Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 42/54] translator: inject instrumentation from plugins Alex Bennée
2019-08-01 19:35   ` Richard Henderson
2019-07-31 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 43/54] plugin: add API symbols to qemu-plugins.symbols Alex Bennée
2019-08-01 19:42   ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-11 16:46     ` Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 44/54] vl: support -plugin option Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 45/54] linux-user: " Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 46/54] tests/plugin: add sample plugins Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 47/54] tests/tcg: enable plugin testing Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 48/54] tests/plugin: add a hotblocks plugin Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 49/54] plugin: add qemu_plugin_insn_disas helper Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 50/54] tests/plugin: add instruction execution breakdown Alex Bennée
2019-08-01 14:31   ` Aaron Lindsay OS via Qemu-devel
2019-10-09 18:49     ` Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 51/54] tests/plugin: add hotpages plugin to breakdown memory access patterns Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 52/54] accel/stubs: reduce headers from tcg-stub Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 53/54] include/exec: wrap cpu_ldst.h in CONFIG_TCG Alex Bennée
2019-08-01 19:51   ` Richard Henderson
2019-07-31 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 54/54] include/exec/cpu-defs.h: fix typo Alex Bennée
2019-07-31 17:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 00/54] plugins for TCG no-reply
2019-08-01  4:19 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-09-06 19:52   ` Alex Bennée
2019-09-10 16:16     ` Aaron Lindsay OS via Qemu-devel [this message]
2019-09-10 17:37       ` Alex Bennée
2019-09-10 16:34     ` Peter Maydell
2019-09-12  6:46     ` [Qemu-devel] TCG plugins and the GPL (was: [PATCH v4 00/54] plugins for TCG) Markus Armbruster
2019-09-12  9:03       ` Alex Bennée
2019-09-12  9:21         ` Peter Maydell
2019-09-12 10:07           ` Alex Bennée
2019-09-12 10:16             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-09-12 10:21               ` Peter Maydell
2019-09-12 10:18             ` Peter Maydell
2019-09-12 10:35               ` Alex Bennée
2019-09-12  9:32         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-08-01 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 00/54] plugins for TCG no-reply

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