From: Hanna Reitz <hreitz@redhat.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
virtio-fs@redhat.com, Ioannis Angelakopoulos <jaggel@bu.edu>,
Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 09/10] virtiofsd: Optionally fill lo_inode.fhandle
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 17:26:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4a74bbbd-92f6-a7d1-0c8d-fa8b121b9643@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YRKZ415xrDtcYaQR@redhat.com>
On 10.08.21 17:23, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 10:32:55AM +0200, Hanna Reitz wrote:
>> On 09.08.21 20:41, Vivek Goyal wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 05:01:33PM +0200, Max Reitz wrote:
>>>> When the inode_file_handles option is set, try to generate a file handle
>>>> for new inodes instead of opening an O_PATH FD.
>>>>
>>>> Being able to open these again will require CAP_DAC_READ_SEARCH, so the
>>>> description text tells the user they will also need to specify
>>>> -o modcaps=+dac_read_search.
>>>>
>>>> Generating a file handle returns the mount ID it is valid for. Opening
>>>> it will require an FD instead. We have mount_fds to map an ID to an FD.
>>>> get_file_handle() fills the hash map by opening the file we have
>>>> generated a handle for. To verify that the resulting FD indeed
>>>> represents the handle's mount ID, we use statx(). Therefore, using file
>>>> handles requires statx() support.
>>> So opening the file and storing that fd in mount_fds table might be
>>> a potential problem with inotify work Ioannis is doing.
>>>
>>> So say a file foo.txt was opened O_RDONLY and fd stored in mount_fs. Now
>>> say user unlinks foo.txt. If notifications are enabled, final notification
>>> will not be generated till this mount_fds fd is closed.
>>>
>>> Now question is when will this fd be closed? If it closed at some
>>> later point and then notification is generated, that will break
>>> notificaitons.
>> Currently, it is never closed.
>>
>>> In fact even O_PATH fd is delaying notifications due to same reason.
>>> But its not too bad as we close O_PATH fd pretty quickly after
>>> unlinking. And we were hoping that file handle support will get rid
>>> of this problem because we will not keep O_PATH fd open.
>>>
>>> But, IIUC, mount_fds stuff will make it even worse. I did not see
>>> the code which removes this fd from mount_fds. So I am not sure what's
>>> the life time of this fd.
>> The lifetime is forever. If we wanted to remove it at some point, we’d need
>> to track how many file handles we have open for the given mount fd and then
>> remove it from the table once the count reaches 0, so it would still be
>> delayed.
>>
>> I think in practice the first thing that is looked up from some mount will
>> probably be the root directory, which cannot be deleted before everything
>> else on the mount is gone, so that would work. We track how many handles
>> are there, if the whole mount were to be deleted, I hope all lo_inodes are
>> evicted, the count goes to 0, and we can drop the mount fd.
> Keeping a reference count on mount_fd object make sense. So we probably
> maintain this hash table and lookup using mount_id (as you are already
> doing). All subsequent inodes from same filesystem will use same
> object. Once all inodes have been flushed out, then mount_fd object
> should go away as well (allowing for unmount on host).
>
>> I think we can make the assumption that the mount fd is the root directory
>> certain by, well, looking into mountinfo... That would result in us always
>> opening the root node of the filesystem, so that first the whole filesystem
>> needs to disappear before it can be deleted (and our mount fd closed) –
>> which should work, I guess?
> This seems more reasonable. And I think that's what man page seems to
> suggest.
>
> The mount_id argument returns an identifier for the filesystem mount
> that corresponds to pathname. This corresponds to the first field in
> one of the records in /proc/self/mountinfo. Opening the pathname in
> the fifth field of that record yields a file descriptor for the mount
> point; that file descriptor can be used in a subsequent call to
> open_by_handle_at().
>
> Fifth field seems to be the mount point. man proc says.
>
> (5) mount point: the pathname of the mount point relative to
> the process's root directory.
>
> So opening mount point and saving as mount_fd (if it is not already
> in hash table) and then take a per inode reference count on mount_fd
> object looks like will solve the life time issue of mount_fd as
> well as the issue of temporary failures arising because we can't
> open a device special file.
Well, we’ve had this discussion before, and it’s possible that a
filesystem has a device file as its mount point.
But given the inotify complications, there’s really a good reason we
should use mountinfo.
>> It’s a bit tricky because our sandboxing prevents easy access to mountinfo,
>> but if that’s the only way...
> yes. We already have lo->proc_self_fd. Maybe we need to keep
> /proc/self/mountinfo open in lo->proc_self_mountinfo. I am assuming
> that any mount table changes will still be visible despite the fact
> I have fd open (and don't have to open new fd to notice new mount/unmount
> changes).
Well, yes, that was my idea. Unfortunately, I wasn’t quite successful
yet; when I tried keeping the fd open, reading from it would just return
0 bytes. Perhaps that’s because we bind-mount /proc/self/fd to /proc so
that nothing else in /proc is visible. Perhaps we need to bind-mount
/proc/self/mountinfo into /proc/self/fd before that...
I’ll just have to try.
Hanna
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-08-10 15:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-07-30 15:01 [PATCH v3 00/10] virtiofsd: Allow using file handles instead of O_PATH FDs Max Reitz
2021-07-30 15:01 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] virtiofsd: Limit setxattr()'s creds-dropped region Max Reitz
2021-08-06 14:16 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-09 10:30 ` Max Reitz
2021-07-30 15:01 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] virtiofsd: Add TempFd structure Max Reitz
2021-08-06 14:41 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-09 10:44 ` Max Reitz
2021-07-30 15:01 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] virtiofsd: Use lo_inode_open() instead of openat() Max Reitz
2021-08-06 15:42 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-07-30 15:01 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] virtiofsd: Add lo_inode_fd() helper Max Reitz
2021-08-06 18:25 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-09 10:48 ` Max Reitz
2021-07-30 15:01 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] virtiofsd: Let lo_fd() return a TempFd Max Reitz
2021-07-30 15:01 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] virtiofsd: Let lo_inode_open() " Max Reitz
2021-08-06 19:55 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-09 13:40 ` Max Reitz
2021-07-30 15:01 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] virtiofsd: Add lo_inode.fhandle Max Reitz
2021-08-09 15:21 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-09 16:41 ` Hanna Reitz
2021-07-30 15:01 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] virtiofsd: Add inodes_by_handle hash table Max Reitz
2021-08-09 16:10 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-09 16:47 ` Hanna Reitz
2021-08-10 14:07 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-10 14:13 ` Hanna Reitz
2021-08-10 17:51 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-07-30 15:01 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] virtiofsd: Optionally fill lo_inode.fhandle Max Reitz
2021-08-09 18:41 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-10 8:32 ` Hanna Reitz
2021-08-10 15:23 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-10 15:26 ` Hanna Reitz [this message]
2021-08-10 15:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-11 6:41 ` Hanna Reitz
2021-08-16 19:44 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-17 8:27 ` Hanna Reitz
2021-08-17 19:45 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-18 0:14 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-18 13:32 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-18 13:48 ` Hanna Reitz
2021-08-19 16:38 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-07-30 15:01 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] virtiofsd: Add lazy lo_do_find() Max Reitz
2021-08-09 19:08 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-10 8:38 ` Hanna Reitz
2021-08-10 14:12 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-10 14:17 ` Hanna Reitz
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