From: Hanna Reitz <hreitz@redhat.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
virtio-fs@redhat.com, Ioannis Angelakopoulos <jaggel@bu.edu>,
Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 09/10] virtiofsd: Optionally fill lo_inode.fhandle
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 08:41:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6e943ee0-dcb3-6812-3a0b-eb2b72b503ad@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YRKh/fbBntF+GfS8@redhat.com>
On 10.08.21 17:57, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 05:26:15PM +0200, Hanna Reitz wrote:
>> On 10.08.21 17:23, Vivek Goyal wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 10:32:55AM +0200, Hanna Reitz wrote:
>>>> On 09.08.21 20:41, Vivek Goyal wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 05:01:33PM +0200, Max Reitz wrote:
>>>>>> When the inode_file_handles option is set, try to generate a file handle
>>>>>> for new inodes instead of opening an O_PATH FD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Being able to open these again will require CAP_DAC_READ_SEARCH, so the
>>>>>> description text tells the user they will also need to specify
>>>>>> -o modcaps=+dac_read_search.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Generating a file handle returns the mount ID it is valid for. Opening
>>>>>> it will require an FD instead. We have mount_fds to map an ID to an FD.
>>>>>> get_file_handle() fills the hash map by opening the file we have
>>>>>> generated a handle for. To verify that the resulting FD indeed
>>>>>> represents the handle's mount ID, we use statx(). Therefore, using file
>>>>>> handles requires statx() support.
>>>>> So opening the file and storing that fd in mount_fds table might be
>>>>> a potential problem with inotify work Ioannis is doing.
>>>>>
>>>>> So say a file foo.txt was opened O_RDONLY and fd stored in mount_fs. Now
>>>>> say user unlinks foo.txt. If notifications are enabled, final notification
>>>>> will not be generated till this mount_fds fd is closed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now question is when will this fd be closed? If it closed at some
>>>>> later point and then notification is generated, that will break
>>>>> notificaitons.
>>>> Currently, it is never closed.
>>>>
>>>>> In fact even O_PATH fd is delaying notifications due to same reason.
>>>>> But its not too bad as we close O_PATH fd pretty quickly after
>>>>> unlinking. And we were hoping that file handle support will get rid
>>>>> of this problem because we will not keep O_PATH fd open.
>>>>>
>>>>> But, IIUC, mount_fds stuff will make it even worse. I did not see
>>>>> the code which removes this fd from mount_fds. So I am not sure what's
>>>>> the life time of this fd.
>>>> The lifetime is forever. If we wanted to remove it at some point, we’d need
>>>> to track how many file handles we have open for the given mount fd and then
>>>> remove it from the table once the count reaches 0, so it would still be
>>>> delayed.
>>>>
>>>> I think in practice the first thing that is looked up from some mount will
>>>> probably be the root directory, which cannot be deleted before everything
>>>> else on the mount is gone, so that would work. We track how many handles
>>>> are there, if the whole mount were to be deleted, I hope all lo_inodes are
>>>> evicted, the count goes to 0, and we can drop the mount fd.
>>> Keeping a reference count on mount_fd object make sense. So we probably
>>> maintain this hash table and lookup using mount_id (as you are already
>>> doing). All subsequent inodes from same filesystem will use same
>>> object. Once all inodes have been flushed out, then mount_fd object
>>> should go away as well (allowing for unmount on host).
>>>
>>>> I think we can make the assumption that the mount fd is the root directory
>>>> certain by, well, looking into mountinfo... That would result in us always
>>>> opening the root node of the filesystem, so that first the whole filesystem
>>>> needs to disappear before it can be deleted (and our mount fd closed) –
>>>> which should work, I guess?
>>> This seems more reasonable. And I think that's what man page seems to
>>> suggest.
>>>
>>> The mount_id argument returns an identifier for the filesystem mount
>>> that corresponds to pathname. This corresponds to the first field in
>>> one of the records in /proc/self/mountinfo. Opening the pathname in
>>> the fifth field of that record yields a file descriptor for the mount
>>> point; that file descriptor can be used in a subsequent call to
>>> open_by_handle_at().
>>>
>>> Fifth field seems to be the mount point. man proc says.
>>>
>>> (5) mount point: the pathname of the mount point relative to
>>> the process's root directory.
>>>
>>> So opening mount point and saving as mount_fd (if it is not already
>>> in hash table) and then take a per inode reference count on mount_fd
>>> object looks like will solve the life time issue of mount_fd as
>>> well as the issue of temporary failures arising because we can't
>>> open a device special file.
>> Well, we’ve had this discussion before, and it’s possible that a filesystem
>> has a device file as its mount point.
> Yes. I think you did modified fuse to do some special trickery. Not sure
> where should that be fixed.
I used fuse, but I’m sure a non-fuse filesystem can do the same. (I
mean, fuse effectively is a non-fuse filesystem, too.)
I don’t think it needs to be fixed, it just means we need to continue to
stat the mount point to verify it’s a regular file or directory.
> If filesystem is faking, then it can fake a device node as regular
> file and fool us into opening it as well?
Well, of course opening any file can have side effects, on any filesystem.
>> But given the inotify complications, there’s really a good reason we should
>> use mountinfo.
>>
>>>> It’s a bit tricky because our sandboxing prevents easy access to mountinfo,
>>>> but if that’s the only way...
>>> yes. We already have lo->proc_self_fd. Maybe we need to keep
>>> /proc/self/mountinfo open in lo->proc_self_mountinfo. I am assuming
>>> that any mount table changes will still be visible despite the fact
>>> I have fd open (and don't have to open new fd to notice new mount/unmount
>>> changes).
>> Well, yes, that was my idea. Unfortunately, I wasn’t quite successful yet;
>> when I tried keeping the fd open, reading from it would just return 0
>> bytes. Perhaps that’s because we bind-mount /proc/self/fd to /proc so that
>> nothing else in /proc is visible. Perhaps we need to bind-mount
>> /proc/self/mountinfo into /proc/self/fd before that...
> Or perhaps open /proc/self/mountinfo and save fd in lo->proc_mountinfo
> before /proc/self/fd is bind mounted on /proc?
Yes, I tried that, and then reading would just return 0 bytes.
Hanna
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-08-11 6:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-07-30 15:01 [PATCH v3 00/10] virtiofsd: Allow using file handles instead of O_PATH FDs Max Reitz
2021-07-30 15:01 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] virtiofsd: Limit setxattr()'s creds-dropped region Max Reitz
2021-08-06 14:16 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-09 10:30 ` Max Reitz
2021-07-30 15:01 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] virtiofsd: Add TempFd structure Max Reitz
2021-08-06 14:41 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-09 10:44 ` Max Reitz
2021-07-30 15:01 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] virtiofsd: Use lo_inode_open() instead of openat() Max Reitz
2021-08-06 15:42 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-07-30 15:01 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] virtiofsd: Add lo_inode_fd() helper Max Reitz
2021-08-06 18:25 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-09 10:48 ` Max Reitz
2021-07-30 15:01 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] virtiofsd: Let lo_fd() return a TempFd Max Reitz
2021-07-30 15:01 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] virtiofsd: Let lo_inode_open() " Max Reitz
2021-08-06 19:55 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-09 13:40 ` Max Reitz
2021-07-30 15:01 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] virtiofsd: Add lo_inode.fhandle Max Reitz
2021-08-09 15:21 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-09 16:41 ` Hanna Reitz
2021-07-30 15:01 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] virtiofsd: Add inodes_by_handle hash table Max Reitz
2021-08-09 16:10 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-09 16:47 ` Hanna Reitz
2021-08-10 14:07 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-10 14:13 ` Hanna Reitz
2021-08-10 17:51 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-07-30 15:01 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] virtiofsd: Optionally fill lo_inode.fhandle Max Reitz
2021-08-09 18:41 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-10 8:32 ` Hanna Reitz
2021-08-10 15:23 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-10 15:26 ` Hanna Reitz
2021-08-10 15:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-11 6:41 ` Hanna Reitz [this message]
2021-08-16 19:44 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-17 8:27 ` Hanna Reitz
2021-08-17 19:45 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-18 0:14 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-18 13:32 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-18 13:48 ` Hanna Reitz
2021-08-19 16:38 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-07-30 15:01 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] virtiofsd: Add lazy lo_do_find() Max Reitz
2021-08-09 19:08 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-10 8:38 ` Hanna Reitz
2021-08-10 14:12 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-10 14:17 ` Hanna Reitz
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