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From: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Sergio Lopez Pascual <slp@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] virtio-mmio: implement modern (v2) personality (virtio-1)
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2019 00:33:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <665148f7-8b64-e6df-cd43-ee1306c7878a@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA9fHPpsvwXeKMnUbbHYu_=F+v+SF9ttAm+vOcXOmPVhMA@mail.gmail.com>

On 08/02/19 11:20, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Aug 2019 at 01:26, Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> wrote:
>> But it's extra work, not entirely risk-free (regressions), and I can't
>> tell if someone out there still uses virtio-mmio (despite me thinking
>> that would be unreasonable). I wouldn't like to see more work sunk into
>> it either way :)
> 
> The main reasons I still see people using virtio-mmio for
> the 'virt' board are:
>  * still using old but working command lines
>  * newer setups that were put together working from older tutorials
>    that recommended virtio-mmio because they predated virtio-pci
>    support being widespread
>  * using older (eg distro) kernels -- for 32-bit kernels in
>    particular it was a while before the virtio-pci support
>    got built in the default configs I think, and then longer
>    again until those got into stable distro releases

There was one time when edk2 core modules gained a feature for marking
the DXE phase stack non-executable. We happily enabled it in OVMF. Then
people reported that UEFI grub in their old Debian guests had broken --
on their hosts carrying OVMF binaries built from upstream. :) We had to
flip the default off in OVMF, and we've stuck with that ever since...

  https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/commit/d20b06a3afdf

> I wouldn't be surprised if some of those applied also to
> via-OVMF boot setups as well as direct kernel boot. So it
> depends a bit what your tolerance for breaking existing
> user setups is.

Near zero. :)

Thanks
Laszlo


  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-02 22:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-29 12:57 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] virtio-mmio: implement modern (v2) personality (virtio-1) Sergio Lopez
2019-07-29 13:10 ` no-reply
2019-07-30  7:06 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-07-30  8:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-31 12:22   ` Sergio Lopez
2019-07-31 19:34     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-31 21:22     ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-07-30 10:25 ` Andrea Bolognani
2019-07-30 11:35   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-07-30 12:17     ` Andrea Bolognani
2019-07-30 13:14       ` Cornelia Huck
2019-07-30 20:02         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-30 20:18         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-31 11:04           ` Sergio Lopez
2019-07-31 13:55           ` Cornelia Huck
2019-07-31 19:06             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-01  8:18               ` Cornelia Huck
2019-07-31 11:02   ` Sergio Lopez
2019-08-01 12:17     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-30 16:06 ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-31 23:58   ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-08-01 19:45     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-02  9:24       ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-08-02  0:26     ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-08-02  9:20       ` Peter Maydell
2019-08-02 22:33         ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
2019-08-01  8:37   ` Sergio Lopez

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