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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: David Gibson <dgibson@redhat.com>
Cc: "Laurent Vivier" <lvivier@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	berrange@redhat.com, ehabkost@redhat.com,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Greg Kurz" <groug@kaod.org>, "Cédric Le Goater" <clg@kaod.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Slow down with: 'Make "info qom-tree" show children sorted'
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 07:37:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a700rpf6.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200716095926.74caee16@umbus.fritz.box> (David Gibson's message of "Thu, 16 Jul 2020 09:59:26 +1000")

David Gibson <dgibson@redhat.com> writes:

> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 18:13:42 +0200
> Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> David Gibson <dgibson@redhat.com> writes:
>> 
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>> >> The surprising part is that n turns out to be large enough for n^2 to
>> >> matter *that* much.  
>> >
>> > Is this another consequence of the ludicrous number of QOM objects we
>> > create for LMB DRCs (one for every 256MiB of guest RAM)?  Avoiding that
>> > is on my list.  
>> 
>> You're talking about machine pseries, I presume.
>
> Yes.
>
>>  With
>> print_qom_composition() patched to print the number of children, I get
>> 
>>     $ echo -e 'info qom-tree\nq' | ../qemu/bld/ppc64-softmmu/qemu-system-ppc64 -S -display none -M pseries -accel qtest -monitor stdio | grep '###' | sort | uniq -c | sort -k 3n
>>         360 ### 0 children
>>           5 ### 1 children
>>           5 ### 2 children
>>           2 ### 3 children
>>           1 ### 4 children
>>           1 ### 15 children
>>           1 ### 16 children
>>           1 ### 18 children
>>           1 ### 37 children
>>           1 ### 266 children
>> 
>> The outlier is
>> 
>>         /device[5] (spapr-pci-host-bridge)
>> 
>> due to its 256 spapr-drc-pci children.
>
> Right, that's one for each possible PCI slot on the bus.  That will be
> reduced by the idea I have in mind for this, but...
>
>> I found quite a few machines with similar outliers.  ARM machines nuri
>> and smdkc210 together take the cake: they each have a node with 513
>> children.
>> 
>> My stupid n^2 sort is unnoticable in normal, human usage even for n=513.
>
> ... as you say, 256 shouldn't really be a problem.  I was concerned
> about LMB DRCs rather than PCI DRCs.  To have that show up, you might
> need to create a machine with a large difference between initial memory
> and maxmem - I think you'll get a DRC object for every 256MiB in there,
> which can easily get into the thousands for large (potential) memory
> VMs.

Okay, I can reproduce: with -m 256,128G, /machine has 549 children, of
which 511 are spapr-drc-lmb.

> I don't know what the config was that showed up this problem in the
> first place, and whether that could be the case there.

Thomas reported device-introspect-test -m slow has become much slower
for ppc64.  Bisection traced it to my commit e8c9e65816 "qom: Make "info
qom-tree" show children sorted".  Uses default memory size, no
spapr-drc-lmb as far as I remember.

>> >                 Though avoiding a n^2 behaviour here is probably a good
>> > idea anyway.  
>> 
>> Agreed.

Patch posted:

    Subject: [PATCH for-5.1 5/5] qom: Make info qom-tree sort children more efficiently
    Message-Id: <20200714160202.3121879-6-armbru@redhat.com>



  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-16  5:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-27  8:47 [PATCH 0/2] qom: Make "info qom-tree" show children sorted Markus Armbruster
2020-05-27  8:47 ` [PATCH 1/2] qom: Constify object_get_canonical_path{, _component}()'s parameter Markus Armbruster
2020-05-27  9:02   ` Cédric Le Goater
2020-05-27  9:49   ` [PATCH 1/2] qom: Constify object_get_canonical_path{,_component}()'s parameter Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-27  8:47 ` [PATCH 2/2] qom: Make "info qom-tree" show children sorted Markus Armbruster
2020-05-27  9:04   ` Cédric Le Goater
2020-05-27 10:31   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-07-07  4:45   ` Slow down with: 'Make "info qom-tree" show children sorted' Thomas Huth
2020-07-07  4:58     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-07-07  5:33       ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-07  8:00         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-07-07 12:00           ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-07 12:04             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-13  1:13             ` David Gibson
2020-07-13 16:13               ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-15 23:59                 ` David Gibson
2020-07-16  5:37                   ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2020-07-17  6:00                     ` David Gibson
2020-07-07  8:46     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-07  9:06       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-07-07  9:40     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-07  9:49       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-07-08  9:24       ` Markus Armbruster
2020-06-08 12:09 ` [PATCH 0/2] qom: Make "info qom-tree" show children sorted Mark Cave-Ayland

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