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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Kashyap Chamarthy <kchamart@redhat.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, pkrempa@redhat.com, berrange@redhat.com,
	ehabkost@redhat.com, qemu-block@nongnu.org, quintela@redhat.com,
	libvir-list@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com, libguestfs@redhat.com,
	marcandre.lureau@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	eblake@redhat.com, dgilbert@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] qapi: New special feature flag "unstable"
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 09:15:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v91k6yul.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YXadbMF3lj5I4+Cd@paraplu> (Kashyap Chamarthy's message of "Mon,  25 Oct 2021 14:05:00 +0200")

Kashyap Chamarthy <kchamart@redhat.com> writes:

> On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 07:25:24AM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> By convention, names starting with "x-" are experimental.  The parts
>> of external interfaces so named may be withdrawn or changed
>> incompatibly in future releases.
>> 
>> Drawback: promoting something from experimental to stable involves a
>> name change.  Client code needs to be updated.
>> 
>> Moreover, the convention is not universally observed:
>> 
>> * QOM type "input-barrier" has properties "x-origin", "y-origin".
>>   Looks accidental, but it's ABI since 4.2.
>> 
>> * QOM types "memory-backend-file", "memory-backend-memfd",
>>   "memory-backend-ram", and "memory-backend-epc" have a property
>>   "x-use-canonical-path-for-ramblock-id" that is documented to be
>>   stable despite its name.
>
> Looks like there's another stable property with an "x-" prefix:
> "x-remote-object", part of QOM type @RemoteObjectProperties.

The union branch 'x-remote-object' isn't flagged 'unstable' (because
union branches can't have feature flags), but the enumeration value
'x-remote-object' is.  Sufficient, because you can't use the branch
without using the enumeration value.  Admittedly subtle.

I wrote a bit of code (appended) to make sure I don't miss names.

> Given the above "x-" properties are now stable, I take it that they
> cannot be renamed now, as they might break any tools using them?  My
> guess is the tedious way is not worth it: deprecate them, and add the
> non-x variants as "synonyms".  

"x-use-canonical-path-for-ramblock-id" goes back to commit fa0cb34d22
"hostmem: use object id for memory region name with >= 4.0" (v4.0).  It
may have been intended to be internal back then.  It wasn't anymore when
commit 8db0b20415 "machine: add missing doc for memory-backend option"
(v6.0) documented it:

    And document that x-use-canonical-path-for-ramblock-id,
    is considered to be stable to make sure it won't go away by accident.
    
    x- was intended for unstable/iternal properties, and not supposed to
    be stable option. However it's too late to rename (drop x-)
    it as it would mean that users will have to mantain both
    x-use-canonical-path-for-ramblock-id (for QEMU 5.0-5.2) versions
    and prefix-less for later versions.

Igor's reasoning still applies.

"x-origin" has always been stable.  Same argument.

>> We could document these exceptions, but documentation helps only
>> humans.  We want to recognize "unstable" in code, like "deprecated".
>>
>> Replace the convention by a new special feature flag "unstable".  It
>> will be recognized by the QAPI generator, like the existing feature
>> flag "deprecated", and unlike regular feature flags.
>
> FWIW, sounds good to me.

Thanks!

>> This commit updates documentation and prepares tests.  The next commit
>> updates the QAPI schema.  The remaining patches update the QAPI
>> generator and wire up -compat policy checking.
>> 
>> Signed-off-by: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
>> ---
>>  docs/devel/qapi-code-gen.rst            | 9 ++++++---
>>  tests/qapi-schema/qapi-schema-test.json | 7 +++++--
>>  tests/qapi-schema/qapi-schema-test.out  | 5 +++++
>>  3 files changed, 16 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>
> [...]


commit 415b71a9f6e5bc37e84895d2e767cf4cfacd279b (HEAD)
Author: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Date:   Sat Oct 9 09:01:21 2021 +0200

    qapi: Find x- without feature unstable DBG

diff --git a/scripts/qapi/schema.py b/scripts/qapi/schema.py
index b7b3fc0ce4..f2af1d7eea 100644
--- a/scripts/qapi/schema.py
+++ b/scripts/qapi/schema.py
@@ -14,6 +14,8 @@
 
 # TODO catching name collisions in generated code would be nice
 
+import sys
+
 from collections import OrderedDict
 import os
 import re
@@ -118,6 +120,11 @@ def describe(self):
         return "%s '%s'" % (self.meta, self.name)
 
 
+def check_have_feature_unstable(name, info, features):
+    if name.startswith('x-') and 'unstable' not in (f.name for f in features):
+        print(QAPISemError(info, f"XXX %{name} %{features}"), file=sys.stderr)
+
+
 class QAPISchemaVisitor:
     def visit_begin(self, schema):
         pass
@@ -718,6 +725,7 @@ def __init__(self, name, info, ifcond=None, features=None):
         self.features = features or []
 
     def connect_doc(self, doc):
+        check_have_feature_unstable(self.name, self.info, self.features)
         super().connect_doc(doc)
         if doc:
             for f in self.features:
@@ -745,6 +753,7 @@ def __init__(self, name, info, typ, optional, ifcond=None, features=None):
         self.features = features or []
 
     def check(self, schema):
+        check_have_feature_unstable(self.name, self.info, self.features)
         assert self.defined_in
         self.type = schema.resolve_type(self._type_name, self.info,
                                         self.describe)
@@ -789,6 +798,7 @@ def __init__(self, name, info, doc, ifcond, features,
 
     def check(self, schema):
         super().check(schema)
+        check_have_feature_unstable(self.name, self.info, self.features)
         if self._arg_type_name:
             self.arg_type = schema.resolve_type(
                 self._arg_type_name, self.info, "command's 'data'")
@@ -844,6 +854,7 @@ def __init__(self, name, info, doc, ifcond, features, arg_type, boxed):
 
     def check(self, schema):
         super().check(schema)
+        check_have_feature_unstable(self.name, self.info, self.features)
         if self._arg_type_name:
             self.arg_type = schema.resolve_type(
                 self._arg_type_name, self.info, "event's 'data'")



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-26  8:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-25  5:25 [PATCH 0/9] Configurable policy for handling unstable interfaces Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25  5:25 ` [PATCH 1/9] qapi: New special feature flag "unstable" Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25  7:15   ` Juan Quintela
2021-10-25 12:05   ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2021-10-25 12:18     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-26  7:15     ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2021-10-26  8:14       ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2021-10-25 19:01   ` John Snow
2021-10-26  5:35     ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-26  7:37   ` Kevin Wolf
2021-10-26  8:36     ` [Libguestfs] " Kashyap Chamarthy
2021-10-26  9:22     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-10-26  9:28       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-10-26  9:37     ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-26 11:34       ` Kevin Wolf
2021-10-28  8:36         ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-26 14:56       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-10-26 15:15         ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-26 15:22           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-10-27  5:29             ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25  5:25 ` [PATCH 2/9] qapi: Mark unstable QMP parts with feature 'unstable' Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25  7:16   ` Juan Quintela
2021-10-25 19:05   ` John Snow
2021-10-26  7:56     ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-26 16:34       ` John Snow
2021-10-27  5:44         ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-29 13:07   ` Eric Blake
2021-11-02  9:15     ` Kevin Wolf
2021-10-25  5:25 ` [PATCH 3/9] qapi: Eliminate QCO_NO_OPTIONS for a slight simplification Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25  7:17   ` Juan Quintela
2021-10-25 19:08   ` John Snow
2021-10-26  7:58     ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25  5:25 ` [PATCH 4/9] qapi: Tools for sets of special feature flags in generated code Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25 19:21   ` John Snow
2021-10-26  8:48     ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25  5:25 ` [PATCH 5/9] qapi: Generalize struct member policy checking Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25 19:28   ` John Snow
2021-10-26  9:14     ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-26 15:43   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-27  5:56     ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25  5:25 ` [PATCH 6/9] qapi: Generalize command " Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25 12:04   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-26  9:40     ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25 19:30   ` John Snow
2021-10-25  5:25 ` [PATCH 7/9] qapi: Generalize enum member " Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25 19:36   ` John Snow
2021-10-26  9:43     ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-26 16:14       ` John Snow
2021-10-25  5:25 ` [PATCH 8/9] qapi: Factor out compat_policy_input_ok() Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25 12:13   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-26  9:46     ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-26 10:39       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-29 14:08         ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25 19:38   ` John Snow
2021-10-25  5:25 ` [PATCH 9/9] qapi: Extend -compat to set policy for unstable interfaces Markus Armbruster
2021-10-25 19:40   ` John Snow
2021-10-26 18:45   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-10-27  5:59     ` Markus Armbruster

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