From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: Sergio Lopez <slp@redhat.com>
Cc: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
maran.wilson@oracle.com, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>,
Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/4] Introduce the microvm machine type
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 19:04:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA_XfRS1b-4ANmR5WLL=19Md6Dp7+M_FAK8pQAJn2MaCOA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a7dwnxwj.fsf@redhat.com>
On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 at 18:34, Sergio Lopez <slp@redhat.com> wrote:
> Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:
> > Could we use virtio-pci instead of virtio-mmio? virtio-mmio is
> > a bit deprecated and tends not to support all the features that
> > virtio-pci does. It was introduced mostly as a stopgap while we
> > didn't have pci support in the aarch64 virt machine, and remains
> > for legacy "we don't like to break existing working setups" rather
> > than as a recommended config for new systems.
>
> Using virtio-pci implies keeping PCI and ACPI support, defeating a
> significant part of microvm's purpose.
>
> What are the issues with the current state of virtio-mmio? Is there a
> way I can help to improve the situation?
Off the top of my head:
* limitations on numbers of devices
* no hotplug support
* unlike PCI, it's not probeable, so you have to tell the
guest where all the transports are using device tree or
some similar mechanism
* you need one IRQ line per transport, which restricts how
many you can have
* it's only virtio-0.9, it doesn't support any of the new
virtio-1.0 functionality
* it is broadly not really maintained in QEMU (and I think
not really in the kernel either? not sure), because we'd
rather not have to maintain two mechanisms for doing virtio
when virtio-pci is clearly better than virtio-mmio
thanks
-- PMM
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-07-02 19:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-07-02 12:11 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/4] Introduce the microvm machine type Sergio Lopez
2019-07-02 12:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/4] hw/virtio: Factorize virtio-mmio headers Sergio Lopez
2019-07-25 9:46 ` Liam Merwick
2019-07-25 9:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-25 10:03 ` Peter Maydell
2019-07-25 10:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-07-02 12:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/4] hw/i386: Add an Intel MPTable generator Sergio Lopez
2019-07-02 12:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 3/4] hw/i386: Factorize PVH related functions Sergio Lopez
2019-07-23 8:39 ` Liam Merwick
2019-07-02 12:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 4/4] hw/i386: Introduce the microvm machine type Sergio Lopez
2019-07-02 13:58 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-07-25 10:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-07-02 15:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/4] " no-reply
2019-07-02 15:23 ` Peter Maydell
2019-07-02 17:34 ` Sergio Lopez
2019-07-02 18:04 ` Peter Maydell [this message]
2019-07-02 22:04 ` Sergio Lopez
2019-07-25 9:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-25 10:05 ` Peter Maydell
2019-07-25 10:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-25 14:52 ` Sergio Lopez
2019-07-25 10:42 ` Sergio Lopez
2019-07-25 11:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-07-25 12:01 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-07-25 12:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-25 13:26 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-07-25 13:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-07-25 13:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-25 14:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-07-25 14:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-25 14:04 ` Peter Maydell
2019-07-25 14:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-07-25 14:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-25 14:42 ` Sergio Lopez
2019-07-25 14:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-25 15:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-25 15:39 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-07-25 17:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-26 12:46 ` Igor Mammedov
2019-07-25 15:49 ` Sergio Lopez
2019-07-25 13:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-02 15:30 ` no-reply
2019-07-03 9:58 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-07-18 15:21 ` Sergio Lopez
2019-07-19 10:29 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-07-19 13:48 ` Sergio Lopez
2019-07-19 15:09 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-07-19 15:42 ` Montes, Julio
2019-07-23 8:43 ` Sergio Lopez
2019-07-23 9:47 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-07-23 10:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-07-24 11:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-07-25 9:35 ` Sergio Lopez
2019-07-25 10:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-25 10:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-07-25 14:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-25 15:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-07-25 17:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-25 20:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-26 7:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-07-26 11:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-23 11:30 ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-24 15:23 ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-08-29 9:02 ` Jing Liu
2019-08-29 15:46 ` Sergio Lopez
2019-08-30 4:53 ` Jing Liu
2019-08-30 14:27 ` Sergio Lopez
2019-09-02 5:43 ` Jing Liu
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