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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC v4 PATCH 00/49] Initial support of multi-process qemu - status update
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 10:50:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bfaf0b42-513c-08f2-2d4f-d99437b7041d@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191220094712.GA1635864@stefanha-x1.localdomain>

On 20/12/19 10:47, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>> If it doesn't create too large of a burden to support both, then I think
>> it is very desirable. IIUC, this is saying a kernel based solution as the
>> optimized/optimal solution, and userspace UNIX socket based option as the
>> generic "works everywhere" fallback solution.
> I'm slightly in favor of the kernel implementation because it keeps us
> better aligned with VFIO.  That means solving problems in one place only
> and less reinventing the wheel.

I think there are anyway going to be some differences with VFIO.

For example, currently VFIO requires pinning user memory.  Is that a
limitation for muser too?  If so, that would be a big disadvantage; if
not, however, management tools need to learn that muser devices unlike
other VFIO devices do not prevent overcommit.

Paolo



  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-20  9:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-24  9:08 [RFC v4 PATCH 00/49] Initial support of multi-process qemu Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 01/49] multi-process: memory: alloc RAM from file at offset Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 02/49] multi-process: util: Add qemu_thread_cancel() to cancel running thread Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-13 15:30   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-13 15:38     ` Jag Raman
2019-11-13 15:51       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-11-13 16:04         ` Jag Raman
2019-11-13 16:35           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 03/49] multi-process: add a command line option for debug file Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-13 15:35   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 04/49] multi-process: Add stub functions to facilate build of multi-process Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 05/49] multi-process: Add config option for multi-process QEMU Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 06/49] multi-process: build system for remote device process Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 07/49] multi-process: define mpqemu-link object Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-11 16:41   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-13 15:47     ` Jag Raman
2019-11-13 15:53   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-18 15:26     ` Jag Raman
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 08/49] multi-process: add functions to synchronize proxy and remote endpoints Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 09/49] multi-process: setup PCI host bridge for remote device Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-13 16:07   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-18 15:25     ` Jag Raman
2019-11-21 10:37       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 10/49] multi-process: setup a machine object for remote device process Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-13 16:22   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-18 15:29     ` Jag Raman
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 11/49] multi-process: setup memory manager for remote device Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-13 16:33   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-13 16:34     ` Jag Raman
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 12/49] multi-process: remote process initialization Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-13 16:38   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 13/49] multi-process: introduce proxy object Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-21 11:09   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 14/49] mutli-process: build remote command line args Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-21 11:23   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 15/49] multi-process: PCI BAR read/write handling for proxy & remote endpoints Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-21 11:33   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 16/49] multi-process: Add LSI device proxy object Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-21 11:35   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 17/49] multi-process: Synchronize remote memory Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-21 11:44   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 18/49] multi-process: create IOHUB object to handle irq Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-21 12:02   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 19/49] multi-process: configure remote side devices Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-21 12:05   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 20/49] multi-process: add qdev_proxy_add to create proxy devices Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-21 12:16   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 21/49] multi-process: remote: add setup_devices and setup_drive msg processing Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 22/49] multi-process: remote: use fd for socket from parent process Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 23/49] multi-process: remote: add create_done condition Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 24/49] multi-process: add processing of remote drive and device command line Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 25/49] multi-process: Introduce build flags to separate remote process code Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 26/49] multi-process: refractor vl.c code to re-use in remote Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 27/49] multi-process: add remote option Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 28/49] multi-process: add remote options parser Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 29/49] multi-process: add parse_cmdline in remote process Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 30/49] multi-process: send heartbeat messages to remote Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-11 16:27   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-13 16:01     ` Jag Raman
2019-11-21 12:19       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 31/49] multi-process: handle heartbeat messages in remote process Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 32/49] multi-process: Use separate MMIO communication channel Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-11 16:21   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-13 16:14     ` Jag Raman
2019-11-21 12:31       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 33/49] multi-process: perform device reset in the remote process Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-11 16:19   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-13 16:15     ` Jag Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 34/49] multi-process/mon: choose HMP commands based on target Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 35/49] multi-process/mon: stub functions to enable QMP module for remote process Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 36/49] multi-process/mon: enable QMP module support in the " Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 37/49] multi-process/mon: Refactor monitor/chardev functions out of vl.c Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 38/49] multi-process/mon: Initialize QMP module for remote processes Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 39/49] multi-process: prevent duplicate memory initialization in remote Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 40/49] multi-process/mig: build migration module in the remote process Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 41/49] multi-process/mig: Enable VMSD save in the Proxy object Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-13 15:50   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-11-13 16:32     ` Jag Raman
2019-11-13 17:11       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-11-18 15:42         ` Jag Raman
2019-11-22 10:34           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 42/49] multi-process/mig: Send VMSD of remote to " Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 43/49] multi-process/mig: Load VMSD in the proxy object Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 44/49] multi-process/mig: refactor runstate_check into common file Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 45/49] multi-process/mig: Synchronize runstate of remote process Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-11 16:17   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-13 16:33     ` Jag Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 46/49] multi-process/mig: Restore the VMSD in " Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 47/49] multi-process: Enable support for multiple devices in remote Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-11 16:15   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-13 16:21     ` Jag Raman
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 48/49] multi-process: add the concept description to docs/devel/qemu-multiprocess Jagannathan Raman
2019-10-25 19:33   ` Elena Ufimtseva
2019-11-07 15:50   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-11 15:41   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-24  9:09 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 49/49] multi-process: add configure and usage information Jagannathan Raman
2019-11-07 14:02   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-07 14:33     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-08 11:17       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-08 11:32         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-11-07 14:39     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-11-07 15:53       ` Jag Raman
2019-11-08 11:14         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-25  2:08 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 00/49] Initial support of multi-process qemu no-reply
2019-10-25  2:08 ` no-reply
2019-10-25  2:10 ` no-reply
2019-11-21 12:46 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-12-10  6:47 ` [RFC v4 PATCH 00/49] Initial support of multi-process qemu - status update Elena Ufimtseva
2019-12-13 10:41   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-12-16 19:46     ` Elena Ufimtseva
2019-12-16 19:57       ` Felipe Franciosi
2019-12-17 16:33         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-12-17 22:57           ` Felipe Franciosi
2019-12-18  0:00             ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-12-19 13:36               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-12-20 17:15                 ` John G Johnson
2020-01-02 10:00                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-01-02 10:04                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-12-19 11:55             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-12-19 12:33               ` Felipe Franciosi
2019-12-19 12:55                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-12-20  9:47                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-12-20  9:50                     ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2019-12-20 14:14                       ` Felipe Franciosi
2019-12-20 15:25                         ` Alex Williamson
2019-12-20 16:00                           ` Felipe Franciosi
2020-02-25  9:16                           ` Thanos Makatos
2019-12-20 10:22                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-02 10:42                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-01-02 11:03                         ` Felipe Franciosi
2020-01-02 18:55                           ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-01-08 16:31                             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-01-03 15:59                           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-01-14  1:56                             ` John G Johnson
2020-01-17 17:25                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-12-19 16:40                 ` Jag Raman
2019-12-19 12:50             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-12-19 16:46               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-02 16:01           ` Elena Ufimtseva
2020-01-03 15:00             ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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