From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Waiman Long <Waiman.Long@hp.com>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>,
Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@suse.cz>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
"Chandramouleeswaran, Aswin" <aswin@hp.com>,
"Norton, Scott J" <scott.norton@hp.com>,
Michael Neuling <michael.neuling@au1.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/4] spinlock: A new lockref structure for lockless update of refcount
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 08:28:33 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFzZyYee87-WiUxoQBXHnbjKWArBpix+bu8Yvi85=-DqeQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130830071612.GB14099@gmail.com>
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> * Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
>> > BTW. Do you have your test case at hand ?
>>
>> My test-case is a joke. It's explicitly *trying* to get as much
>> contention as possible on a dentry, by just starting up a lot of threads
>> that look up one single pathname (the same one for everybody). It
>> defaults to using /tmp for this, but you can specify the filename.
>
> Waiman's tests seemed to use sufficiently generic and varied workloads
> (AIM7) and they showed pretty nice unconditional improvements with his
> variant of this scheme, so I think testing with your simple testcase that
> intentionally magnifies the scalability issue is 100% legit and may in
> fact help tune the changes more accurately, because it has less inherent
> noise.
Yes. However, what I am (not very) worried about is that people will
hit some particular codepath that ends up having bad behavior.
I think I covered all the normal hotpaths in pathname lookup, which is
why I'm not *that* worried, but it's still the case that my silly
test-case is very limited. It's limited for a good *reason* (to try to
show the worst-case scalability problem), but it's limited.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-08-30 15:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 154+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-06 3:12 [PATCH v7 0/4] Lockless update of reference count protected by spinlock Waiman Long
2013-08-06 3:12 ` [PATCH v7 1/4] spinlock: A new lockref structure for lockless update of refcount Waiman Long
2013-08-29 1:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-29 4:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-29 7:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-08-29 16:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-29 19:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-29 23:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-30 0:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-30 0:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-30 2:06 ` Michael Neuling
2013-08-30 2:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-30 2:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-30 2:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-30 2:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-30 2:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-30 7:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-08-30 15:28 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2013-08-30 3:12 ` Waiman Long
2013-08-30 3:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-30 7:55 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-08-30 8:10 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-08-30 9:27 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-08-30 9:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-08-30 9:56 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-08-30 9:58 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-08-30 10:29 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-08-30 10:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-30 10:44 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-08-30 10:46 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-08-30 10:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-30 10:57 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-08-30 14:05 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-08-30 11:19 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-08-30 10:38 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-08-30 15:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-30 15:38 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-08-30 16:12 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-30 16:16 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-08-30 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-30 16:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-30 16:37 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-08-30 16:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-30 17:11 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-08-30 17:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-01 10:01 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-09-01 10:33 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-09-01 15:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-01 15:45 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-09-01 15:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-02 10:30 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-09-02 16:09 ` David Ahern
2013-09-02 16:09 ` David Ahern
2013-09-01 20:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-01 21:23 ` Al Viro
2013-09-01 22:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-01 22:35 ` Al Viro
2013-09-01 22:44 ` Al Viro
2013-09-01 22:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-01 22:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-01 23:30 ` Al Viro
2013-09-02 0:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-02 0:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-02 0:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-02 7:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-02 16:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-03 10:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-03 15:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-03 18:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-03 19:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-03 21:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-03 21:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-03 21:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-03 21:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-03 14:08 ` Pavel Machek
2013-09-03 22:37 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-09-03 22:55 ` Dave Jones
2013-09-03 23:05 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-09-03 23:15 ` Dave Jones
2013-09-03 23:20 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-09-03 23:45 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-08-30 18:33 ` Waiman Long
2013-08-30 18:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-30 19:20 ` Waiman Long
2013-08-30 19:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-30 20:15 ` Waiman Long
2013-08-30 20:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-30 20:54 ` Al Viro
2013-08-30 21:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-30 21:44 ` Al Viro
2013-08-30 22:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-31 21:23 ` Al Viro
2013-08-31 22:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-31 23:27 ` Al Viro
2013-09-01 0:13 ` Al Viro
2013-09-01 17:48 ` Al Viro
2013-09-09 8:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-30 21:10 ` Waiman Long
2013-08-30 21:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-30 21:30 ` Al Viro
2013-08-30 21:42 ` Waiman Long
2013-08-30 19:40 ` Al Viro
2013-08-30 19:52 ` Waiman Long
2013-08-30 20:26 ` Al Viro
2013-08-30 20:35 ` Waiman Long
2013-08-30 20:48 ` Al Viro
2013-08-31 2:02 ` Waiman Long
2013-08-31 2:35 ` Al Viro
2013-08-31 2:42 ` Al Viro
2013-09-02 19:25 ` Waiman Long
2013-09-03 6:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-03 7:24 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-09-03 15:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-03 15:14 ` Waiman Long
2013-09-03 15:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-03 19:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-03 21:01 ` Waiman Long
2013-09-04 14:52 ` Waiman Long
2013-09-04 15:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-04 19:25 ` Waiman Long
2013-09-04 21:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-05 2:35 ` Waiman Long
2013-09-05 13:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-05 17:33 ` Waiman Long
2013-09-05 17:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-03 22:41 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-09-03 23:11 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-09-03 23:11 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-09-08 21:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-09 0:03 ` Al Viro
2013-09-09 0:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-09 0:35 ` Al Viro
2013-09-09 0:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-09 0:57 ` Al Viro
2013-09-09 2:09 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-09 0:30 ` Al Viro
2013-09-09 3:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-09 4:06 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-09 5:44 ` Al Viro
2013-08-30 17:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-30 17:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-30 17:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-29 15:20 ` Waiman Long
2013-08-06 3:12 ` [PATCH v7 2/4] spinlock: Enable x86 architecture to do lockless refcount update Waiman Long
2013-08-06 3:12 ` [PATCH v7 3/4] dcache: replace d_lock/d_count by d_lockcnt Waiman Long
2013-08-06 3:12 ` [PATCH v7 4/4] dcache: Enable lockless update of dentry's refcount Waiman Long
2013-08-13 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 0/4] Lockless update of reference count protected by spinlock Waiman Long
2013-08-31 3:06 [PATCH v7 1/4] spinlock: A new lockref structure for lockless update of refcount George Spelvin
2013-08-31 17:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-01 8:50 ` George Spelvin
2013-09-01 11:10 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-01 15:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-01 18:11 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-01 20:03 ` Linus Torvalds
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