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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	Robert Richter <rrichter@marvell.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Julien Thierry <julien.thierry.kdev@gmail.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 08/20] irqchip/gic-v4.1: Plumb get/set_irqchip_state SGI callbacks
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2020 12:09:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <db819547d4be8daa458bcd56aac2efcd@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4f8f3958-2976-b0a7-8d17-440ecaba0fc8@huawei.com>

Hi Zenghui,

On 2020-03-02 08:18, Zenghui Yu wrote:
> On 2020/3/2 3:00, Marc Zyngier wrote:
>> On 2020-02-28 19:37, Marc Zyngier wrote:
>>> On 2020-02-20 03:11, Zenghui Yu wrote:
>> 
>>>> Do we really need to grab the vpe_lock for those which are belong to
>>>> the same irqchip with its_vpe_set_affinity()? The IRQ core code 
>>>> should
>>>> already ensure the mutual exclusion among them, wrong?
>>> 
>>> I've been trying to think about that, but jet-lag keeps getting in 
>>> the way.
>>> I empirically think that you are right, but I need to go and check 
>>> the various
>>> code paths to be sure. Hopefully I'll have a bit more brain space 
>>> next week.
>> 
>> So I slept on it and came back to my senses. The only case we actually 
>> need
>> to deal with is when an affinity change impacts *another* interrupt.
>> 
>> There is only two instances of this issue:
>> 
>> - vLPIs have their *physical* affinity impacted by the affinity of the
>>    vPE. Their virtual affinity is of course unchanged, but the 
>> physical
>>    one becomes important with direct invalidation. Taking a per-VPE 
>> lock
>>    in such context should address the issue.
>> 
>> - vSGIs have the exact same issue, plus the matter of requiring some
>>    *extra* one when reading the pending state, which requires a RMW
>>    on two different registers. This requires an extra per-RD lock.
> 
> Agreed with both!
> 
>> 
>> My original patch was stupidly complex, and the irq_desc lock is
>> perfectly enough to deal with anything that only affects the interrupt
>> state itself.
>> 
>> GICv4 + direct invalidation for vLPIs breaks this by bypassing the
>> serialization initially provided by the ITS, as the RD is completely
>> out of band. The per-vPE lock brings back this serialization.
>> 
>> I've updated the branch, which seems to run OK on D05. I still need
>> to run the usual tests on the FVP model though.
> 
> I have pulled the latest branch and it looks good to me, except for
> one remaining concern:
> 
> GICR_INV{LPI, ALL}R + GICR_SYNCR can also be accessed concurrently
> by multiple direct invalidation, should we also use the per-RD lock
> to ensure mutual exclusion?  It looks not so harmful though, as this
> will only increase one's polling time against the Busy bit (in my 
> view).
> 
> But I point it out again for confirmation.

I was about to say that it doesn't really matter because it is only a
performance optimisation (and we're noty quite there yet), until I 
spotted
this great nugget in the spec:

<quote>
Writing GICR_INVLPIR or GICR_INVALLR when GICR_SYNCR.Busy==1 is 
CONSTRAINED
UNPREDICTABLE:
- The write is IGNORED .
- The invalidate specified by the write is performed.
</quote>

So we really need some form of mutual exclusion on a per-RD basis to 
ensure
that no two invalidations occur at the same time, ensuring that Busy 
clears
between the two.

Thanks for the heads up,

         M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...

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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>
Cc: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Robert Richter <rrichter@marvell.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 08/20] irqchip/gic-v4.1: Plumb get/set_irqchip_state SGI callbacks
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2020 12:09:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <db819547d4be8daa458bcd56aac2efcd@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4f8f3958-2976-b0a7-8d17-440ecaba0fc8@huawei.com>

Hi Zenghui,

On 2020-03-02 08:18, Zenghui Yu wrote:
> On 2020/3/2 3:00, Marc Zyngier wrote:
>> On 2020-02-28 19:37, Marc Zyngier wrote:
>>> On 2020-02-20 03:11, Zenghui Yu wrote:
>> 
>>>> Do we really need to grab the vpe_lock for those which are belong to
>>>> the same irqchip with its_vpe_set_affinity()? The IRQ core code 
>>>> should
>>>> already ensure the mutual exclusion among them, wrong?
>>> 
>>> I've been trying to think about that, but jet-lag keeps getting in 
>>> the way.
>>> I empirically think that you are right, but I need to go and check 
>>> the various
>>> code paths to be sure. Hopefully I'll have a bit more brain space 
>>> next week.
>> 
>> So I slept on it and came back to my senses. The only case we actually 
>> need
>> to deal with is when an affinity change impacts *another* interrupt.
>> 
>> There is only two instances of this issue:
>> 
>> - vLPIs have their *physical* affinity impacted by the affinity of the
>>    vPE. Their virtual affinity is of course unchanged, but the 
>> physical
>>    one becomes important with direct invalidation. Taking a per-VPE 
>> lock
>>    in such context should address the issue.
>> 
>> - vSGIs have the exact same issue, plus the matter of requiring some
>>    *extra* one when reading the pending state, which requires a RMW
>>    on two different registers. This requires an extra per-RD lock.
> 
> Agreed with both!
> 
>> 
>> My original patch was stupidly complex, and the irq_desc lock is
>> perfectly enough to deal with anything that only affects the interrupt
>> state itself.
>> 
>> GICv4 + direct invalidation for vLPIs breaks this by bypassing the
>> serialization initially provided by the ITS, as the RD is completely
>> out of band. The per-vPE lock brings back this serialization.
>> 
>> I've updated the branch, which seems to run OK on D05. I still need
>> to run the usual tests on the FVP model though.
> 
> I have pulled the latest branch and it looks good to me, except for
> one remaining concern:
> 
> GICR_INV{LPI, ALL}R + GICR_SYNCR can also be accessed concurrently
> by multiple direct invalidation, should we also use the per-RD lock
> to ensure mutual exclusion?  It looks not so harmful though, as this
> will only increase one's polling time against the Busy bit (in my 
> view).
> 
> But I point it out again for confirmation.

I was about to say that it doesn't really matter because it is only a
performance optimisation (and we're noty quite there yet), until I 
spotted
this great nugget in the spec:

<quote>
Writing GICR_INVLPIR or GICR_INVALLR when GICR_SYNCR.Busy==1 is 
CONSTRAINED
UNPREDICTABLE:
- The write is IGNORED .
- The invalidate specified by the write is performed.
</quote>

So we really need some form of mutual exclusion on a per-RD basis to 
ensure
that no two invalidations occur at the same time, ensuring that Busy 
clears
between the two.

Thanks for the heads up,

         M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...
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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>
Cc: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	Robert Richter <rrichter@marvell.com>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Julien Thierry <julien.thierry.kdev@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 08/20] irqchip/gic-v4.1: Plumb get/set_irqchip_state SGI callbacks
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2020 12:09:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <db819547d4be8daa458bcd56aac2efcd@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4f8f3958-2976-b0a7-8d17-440ecaba0fc8@huawei.com>

Hi Zenghui,

On 2020-03-02 08:18, Zenghui Yu wrote:
> On 2020/3/2 3:00, Marc Zyngier wrote:
>> On 2020-02-28 19:37, Marc Zyngier wrote:
>>> On 2020-02-20 03:11, Zenghui Yu wrote:
>> 
>>>> Do we really need to grab the vpe_lock for those which are belong to
>>>> the same irqchip with its_vpe_set_affinity()? The IRQ core code 
>>>> should
>>>> already ensure the mutual exclusion among them, wrong?
>>> 
>>> I've been trying to think about that, but jet-lag keeps getting in 
>>> the way.
>>> I empirically think that you are right, but I need to go and check 
>>> the various
>>> code paths to be sure. Hopefully I'll have a bit more brain space 
>>> next week.
>> 
>> So I slept on it and came back to my senses. The only case we actually 
>> need
>> to deal with is when an affinity change impacts *another* interrupt.
>> 
>> There is only two instances of this issue:
>> 
>> - vLPIs have their *physical* affinity impacted by the affinity of the
>>    vPE. Their virtual affinity is of course unchanged, but the 
>> physical
>>    one becomes important with direct invalidation. Taking a per-VPE 
>> lock
>>    in such context should address the issue.
>> 
>> - vSGIs have the exact same issue, plus the matter of requiring some
>>    *extra* one when reading the pending state, which requires a RMW
>>    on two different registers. This requires an extra per-RD lock.
> 
> Agreed with both!
> 
>> 
>> My original patch was stupidly complex, and the irq_desc lock is
>> perfectly enough to deal with anything that only affects the interrupt
>> state itself.
>> 
>> GICv4 + direct invalidation for vLPIs breaks this by bypassing the
>> serialization initially provided by the ITS, as the RD is completely
>> out of band. The per-vPE lock brings back this serialization.
>> 
>> I've updated the branch, which seems to run OK on D05. I still need
>> to run the usual tests on the FVP model though.
> 
> I have pulled the latest branch and it looks good to me, except for
> one remaining concern:
> 
> GICR_INV{LPI, ALL}R + GICR_SYNCR can also be accessed concurrently
> by multiple direct invalidation, should we also use the per-RD lock
> to ensure mutual exclusion?  It looks not so harmful though, as this
> will only increase one's polling time against the Busy bit (in my 
> view).
> 
> But I point it out again for confirmation.

I was about to say that it doesn't really matter because it is only a
performance optimisation (and we're noty quite there yet), until I 
spotted
this great nugget in the spec:

<quote>
Writing GICR_INVLPIR or GICR_INVALLR when GICR_SYNCR.Busy==1 is 
CONSTRAINED
UNPREDICTABLE:
- The write is IGNORED .
- The invalidate specified by the write is performed.
</quote>

So we really need some form of mutual exclusion on a per-RD basis to 
ensure
that no two invalidations occur at the same time, ensuring that Busy 
clears
between the two.

Thanks for the heads up,

         M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-02 12:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 142+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-14 14:57 [PATCH v4 00/20] irqchip/gic-v4: GICv4.1 architecture support Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57 ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57 ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 01/20] irqchip/gic-v4.1: Skip absent CPUs while iterating over redistributors Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-17  9:11   ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-17  9:11     ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-17  9:11     ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-14 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 02/20] irqchip/gic-v3: Use SGIs without active state if offered Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-17  9:18   ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-17  9:18     ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-17  9:18     ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-14 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 03/20] irqchip/gic-v4.1: Advertise support v4.1 to KVM Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-17  9:09   ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-17  9:09     ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-17  9:09     ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-14 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 04/20] irqchip/gic-v4.1: Map the ITS SGIR register page Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-20  3:17   ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-20  3:17     ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-20  3:17     ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-14 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 05/20] irqchip/gic-v4.1: Plumb skeletal VSGI irqchip Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-20  3:21   ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-20  3:21     ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-20  3:21     ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-14 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 06/20] irqchip/gic-v4.1: Add initial SGI configuration Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-18  7:25   ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-18  7:25     ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-18  7:25     ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-18  9:46     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-18  9:46       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-18  9:46       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-20  3:25       ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-20  3:25         ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-20  3:25         ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-14 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 07/20] irqchip/gic-v4.1: Plumb mask/unmask SGI callbacks Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-20  3:32   ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-20  3:32     ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-20  3:32     ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-14 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 08/20] irqchip/gic-v4.1: Plumb get/set_irqchip_state " Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-18  7:00   ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-18  7:00     ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-18  7:00     ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-18  9:27     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-18  9:27       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-18  9:27       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-18 15:31       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-18 15:31         ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-18 15:31         ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-19 11:50         ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-19 11:50           ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-19 11:50           ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-19 15:18           ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-19 15:18             ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-19 15:18             ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-20  3:11         ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-20  3:11           ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-20  3:11           ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-28 19:37           ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-28 19:37             ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-28 19:37             ` Marc Zyngier
2020-03-01 19:00             ` Marc Zyngier
2020-03-01 19:00               ` Marc Zyngier
2020-03-01 19:00               ` Marc Zyngier
2020-03-02  8:18               ` Zenghui Yu
2020-03-02  8:18                 ` Zenghui Yu
2020-03-02  8:18                 ` Zenghui Yu
2020-03-02 12:09                 ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2020-03-02 12:09                   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-03-02 12:09                   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-03-02 14:21                   ` Bill Barrow
2020-02-14 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 09/20] irqchip/gic-v4.1: Plumb set_vcpu_affinity " Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-20  3:37   ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-20  3:37     ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-20  3:37     ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-28 19:00     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-28 19:00       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-28 19:00       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 10/20] irqchip/gic-v4.1: Move doorbell management to the GICv4 abstraction layer Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 11/20] irqchip/gic-v4.1: Add VSGI allocation/teardown Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 12/20] irqchip/gic-v4.1: Add VSGI property setup Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 13/20] irqchip/gic-v4.1: Eagerly vmap vPEs Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 14/20] KVM: arm64: GICv4.1: Let doorbells be auto-enabled Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 15/20] KVM: arm64: GICv4.1: Add direct injection capability to SGI registers Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-18  8:46   ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-18  8:46     ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-18  8:46     ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-18  9:41     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-18  9:41       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-18  9:41       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 16/20] KVM: arm64: GICv4.1: Allow SGIs to switch between HW and SW interrupts Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-20  3:55   ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-20  3:55     ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-20  3:55     ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-28 19:16     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-28 19:16       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-28 19:16       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-03-02  2:40       ` Zenghui Yu
2020-03-02  2:40         ` Zenghui Yu
2020-03-02  2:40         ` Zenghui Yu
2020-02-14 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 17/20] KVM: arm64: GICv4.1: Plumb SGI implementation selection in the distributor Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 18/20] KVM: arm64: GICv4.1: Reload VLPI configuration on distributor enable/disable Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 19/20] KVM: arm64: GICv4.1: Allow non-trapping WFI when using HW SGIs Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 20/20] KVM: arm64: GICv4.1: Expose HW-based SGIs in debugfs Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-02-14 14:57   ` Marc Zyngier

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