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From: John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>
To: Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	<gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>, <rafael@kernel.org>,
	<rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>, <will@kernel.org>,
	<robin.murphy@arm.com>, <joro@8bytes.org>,
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	Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <bgolaszewski@baylibre.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] iommu: Enable devices to request non-strict DMA, starting with QCom SD/MMC
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 18:39:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f3078ff2-97a6-6029-b584-1589ed184579@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210621235248.2521620-1-dianders@chromium.org>

On 22/06/2021 00:52, Douglas Anderson wrote:
> 
> This patch attempts to put forward a proposal for enabling non-strict
> DMA on a device-by-device basis. The patch series requests non-strict
> DMA for the Qualcomm SDHCI controller as a first device to enable,
> getting a nice bump in performance with what's believed to be a very
> small drop in security / safety (see the patch for the full argument).
> 
> As part of this patch series I am end up slightly cleaning up some of
> the interactions between the PCI subsystem and the IOMMU subsystem but
> I don't go all the way to fully remove all the tentacles. Specifically
> this patch series only concerns itself with a single aspect: strict
> vs. non-strict mode for the IOMMU. I'm hoping that this will be easier
> to talk about / reason about for more subsystems compared to overall
> deciding what it means for a device to be "external" or "untrusted".
> 
> If something like this patch series ends up being landable, it will
> undoubtedly need coordination between many maintainers to land. I
> believe it's fully bisectable but later patches in the series
> definitely depend on earlier ones. Sorry for the long CC list. :(
> 

JFYI, In case to missed it, and I know it's not the same thing as you 
want, above, but the following series will allow you to build the kernel 
to default to lazy mode:

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iommu/1624016058-189713-1-git-send-email-john.garry@huawei.com/T/#m21bc07b9353b3ba85f2a40557645c2bcc13cbb3e

So iommu.strict=0 would be no longer always required for arm64.

Thanks,
John


> 
> Douglas Anderson (6):
>    drivers: base: Add the concept of "pre_probe" to drivers
>    drivers: base: Add bits to struct device to control iommu strictness
>    PCI: Indicate that we want to force strict DMA for untrusted devices
>    iommu: Combine device strictness requests with the global default
>    iommu: Stop reaching into PCIe devices to decide strict vs. non-strict
>    mmc: sdhci-msm: Request non-strict IOMMU mode
> 
>   drivers/base/dd.c             | 10 +++++--
>   drivers/iommu/dma-iommu.c     |  2 +-
>   drivers/iommu/iommu.c         | 56 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------
>   drivers/mmc/host/sdhci-msm.c  |  8 +++++
>   drivers/pci/probe.c           |  4 ++-
>   include/linux/device.h        | 11 +++++++
>   include/linux/device/driver.h |  9 ++++++
>   include/linux/iommu.h         |  2 ++
>   8 files changed, 85 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
> 


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From: John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>
To: Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	<gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>, <rafael@kernel.org>,
	<rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>, <will@kernel.org>,
	<robin.murphy@arm.com>, <joro@8bytes.org>,
	<bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>, <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	<adrian.hunter@intel.com>, <bhelgaas@google.com>
Cc: robdclark@chromium.org,
	Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>,
	saravanak@google.com, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org, quic_c_gdjako@quicinc.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <bgolaszewski@baylibre.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, joel@joelfernandes.org,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	rajatja@google.com, sonnyrao@chromium.org,
	vbadigan@codeaurora.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] iommu: Enable devices to request non-strict DMA, starting with QCom SD/MMC
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 18:39:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f3078ff2-97a6-6029-b584-1589ed184579@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210621235248.2521620-1-dianders@chromium.org>

On 22/06/2021 00:52, Douglas Anderson wrote:
> 
> This patch attempts to put forward a proposal for enabling non-strict
> DMA on a device-by-device basis. The patch series requests non-strict
> DMA for the Qualcomm SDHCI controller as a first device to enable,
> getting a nice bump in performance with what's believed to be a very
> small drop in security / safety (see the patch for the full argument).
> 
> As part of this patch series I am end up slightly cleaning up some of
> the interactions between the PCI subsystem and the IOMMU subsystem but
> I don't go all the way to fully remove all the tentacles. Specifically
> this patch series only concerns itself with a single aspect: strict
> vs. non-strict mode for the IOMMU. I'm hoping that this will be easier
> to talk about / reason about for more subsystems compared to overall
> deciding what it means for a device to be "external" or "untrusted".
> 
> If something like this patch series ends up being landable, it will
> undoubtedly need coordination between many maintainers to land. I
> believe it's fully bisectable but later patches in the series
> definitely depend on earlier ones. Sorry for the long CC list. :(
> 

JFYI, In case to missed it, and I know it's not the same thing as you 
want, above, but the following series will allow you to build the kernel 
to default to lazy mode:

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iommu/1624016058-189713-1-git-send-email-john.garry@huawei.com/T/#m21bc07b9353b3ba85f2a40557645c2bcc13cbb3e

So iommu.strict=0 would be no longer always required for arm64.

Thanks,
John


> 
> Douglas Anderson (6):
>    drivers: base: Add the concept of "pre_probe" to drivers
>    drivers: base: Add bits to struct device to control iommu strictness
>    PCI: Indicate that we want to force strict DMA for untrusted devices
>    iommu: Combine device strictness requests with the global default
>    iommu: Stop reaching into PCIe devices to decide strict vs. non-strict
>    mmc: sdhci-msm: Request non-strict IOMMU mode
> 
>   drivers/base/dd.c             | 10 +++++--
>   drivers/iommu/dma-iommu.c     |  2 +-
>   drivers/iommu/iommu.c         | 56 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------
>   drivers/mmc/host/sdhci-msm.c  |  8 +++++
>   drivers/pci/probe.c           |  4 ++-
>   include/linux/device.h        | 11 +++++++
>   include/linux/device/driver.h |  9 ++++++
>   include/linux/iommu.h         |  2 ++
>   8 files changed, 85 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
> 

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-06-22 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-21 23:52 [PATCH 0/6] iommu: Enable devices to request non-strict DMA, starting with QCom SD/MMC Douglas Anderson
2021-06-21 23:52 ` Douglas Anderson
2021-06-21 23:52 ` [PATCH 1/6] drivers: base: Add the concept of "pre_probe" to drivers Douglas Anderson
2021-06-21 23:52   ` Douglas Anderson
2021-06-24 13:35   ` Greg KH
2021-06-24 13:35     ` Greg KH
2021-06-21 23:52 ` [PATCH 2/6] drivers: base: Add bits to struct device to control iommu strictness Douglas Anderson
2021-06-21 23:52   ` Douglas Anderson
2021-06-24 13:36   ` Greg KH
2021-06-24 13:36     ` Greg KH
2021-06-24 13:42     ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-24 13:42       ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-21 23:52 ` [PATCH 3/6] PCI: Indicate that we want to force strict DMA for untrusted devices Douglas Anderson
2021-06-21 23:52   ` Douglas Anderson
2021-06-24 13:38   ` Greg KH
2021-06-24 13:38     ` Greg KH
2021-06-24 13:46     ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-24 13:46       ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-21 23:52 ` [PATCH 4/6] iommu: Combine device strictness requests with the global default Douglas Anderson
2021-06-21 23:52   ` Douglas Anderson
2021-06-22  2:03   ` Lu Baolu
2021-06-22  2:03     ` Lu Baolu
2021-06-22 16:53     ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-22 16:53       ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-22 17:01       ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-22 17:01         ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-22  2:55   ` Saravana Kannan
2021-06-22  2:55     ` Saravana Kannan via iommu
2021-06-22 16:40     ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-22 16:40       ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-22 19:50       ` Saravana Kannan
2021-06-22 19:50         ` Saravana Kannan via iommu
2021-06-22 11:49   ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-22 11:49     ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-22 18:45   ` Rajat Jain
2021-06-22 18:45     ` Rajat Jain via iommu
2021-06-22 19:35     ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-22 19:35       ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-21 23:52 ` [PATCH 5/6] iommu: Stop reaching into PCIe devices to decide strict vs. non-strict Douglas Anderson
2021-06-21 23:52   ` Douglas Anderson
2021-06-21 23:52 ` [PATCH 6/6] mmc: sdhci-msm: Request non-strict IOMMU mode Douglas Anderson
2021-06-21 23:52   ` Douglas Anderson
2021-06-24 13:43   ` Greg KH
2021-06-24 13:43     ` Greg KH
2021-06-24 14:00     ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-24 14:00       ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-22 11:35 ` [PATCH 0/6] iommu: Enable devices to request non-strict DMA, starting with QCom SD/MMC Robin Murphy
2021-06-22 11:35   ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-22 16:06   ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-22 16:06     ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-22 20:02     ` Rob Herring
2021-06-22 20:02       ` Rob Herring
2021-06-22 20:05       ` Saravana Kannan
2021-06-22 20:05         ` Saravana Kannan via iommu
2021-06-22 20:10         ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-22 20:10           ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-23 13:54           ` Rob Herring
2021-06-23 13:54             ` Rob Herring
2021-06-22 22:10     ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-22 22:10       ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-23 17:29       ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-23 17:29         ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-24 17:23         ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-24 17:23           ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-22 17:39 ` John Garry [this message]
2021-06-22 17:39   ` John Garry
2021-06-22 19:50   ` Doug Anderson
2021-06-22 19:50     ` Doug Anderson

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