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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, RCU <rcu@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Theodore Y . Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Oleksiy Avramchenko <oleksiy.avramchenko@sonymobile.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] rcu/tree: Drop the lock before entering to page allocator
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 15:14:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200715221449.GJ9247@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200715193250.axntj7jdt6bw52dr@linutronix.de>

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 09:32:50PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2020-07-15 21:02:43 [+0200], Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> > 
> > <snip>
> >     spin_lock();
> >     __get_free_page(GFP_NOWAIT | __GFP_NOWARN);
> >     spin_unlock();
> > <snip>
> > 
> > Also, please note we do it for regular kernel.
> 
> ach right okay then.
> 
> > >
> > > What happened to the part where I asked for a spinlock_t?
> > > 
> > What do you mean?
> 
> Please drop that raw_spinlock_t for the kfree_rcu() based locking and
> use just a plain spinlock_t for the locking. Then you can keep the same
> code flow for RT and !RT without any special cases and everything.

My concern is that some critical bug will show up at some point
that requires double-argument kfree_rcu() be invoked while holding
a raw spinlock.  (Single-argument kfree_rcu() must sometimes invoke
synchronize_rcu(), so it can never be invoked in any state forbidding
invoking schedule().)

Yes, dropping to a plain spinlock would be simple in the here and now,
but experience indicates that it is only a matter of time, and that when
that time comes it will come as an emergency.

One approach would be to replace the "IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT)"
with some sort of check for being in a context where spinlock acquisition
is not legal.  What could be done along those lines?

							Thanx, Paul

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-07-15 22:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-15 18:35 [PATCH 1/1] rcu/tree: Drop the lock before entering to page allocator Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2020-07-15 18:56 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-07-15 19:02   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-07-15 19:32     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-07-15 19:36       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-07-15 22:14       ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2020-07-16 14:14         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-07-16 15:20           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-07-16 15:36             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-07-16 16:36               ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-07-15 23:13   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-07-16  9:19     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-07-16 13:36       ` Joel Fernandes
2020-07-16 14:37         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-07-16 18:27           ` Joel Fernandes
2020-07-16 19:03             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-07-16 14:25       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-07-16 14:47         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-07-16 15:04           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-07-16 15:34             ` Uladzislau Rezki

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