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From: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
To: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	casey.schaufler@intel.com, jmorris@namei.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, selinux@vger.kernel.org
Cc: keescook@chromium.org, john.johansen@canonical.com,
	penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp, paul@paul-moore.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v14 22/23] LSM: Add /proc attr entry for full LSM context
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 08:37:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9a07bf65-c0a8-6295-a3a5-ac1817385891@tycho.nsa.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7ac0fa7d-225a-a554-bc1f-78d4d07b8adc@schaufler-ca.com>

On 2/3/20 4:39 PM, Casey Schaufler wrote:
> On 2/3/2020 11:37 AM, Stephen Smalley wrote:
>> BTW, I think the above guarantees with the exception of no trailing whitespace and whether the NUL byte is included or excluded from length are in reality also required for "current" (and SO_PEERSEC) or existing userspace will break.
> 
> The behavior of interfaces (e.g. "current", "exec") that are module defined
> is only of concern with respect to to "display" behavior. If a security module
> wants to provide a variable size binary blob in "current" I would object on
> principle, but policy as I understand it has long been that if the authors want
> to do that, it's their call.

Doing so would break existing userspace (not just LSM-specific 
userspace), so I think it would be a deal breaker even for new security 
modules to move away from those guarantees for "current" at least. 
procps-ng (and I think procps before it) directly reads 
/proc/pid/attr/current and truncates at the first unprintable character. 
  systemd's sd-bus reads /proc/pid/attr/current directly and treats \n, 
\r, or \0 byte as terminators and truncated on first occurrence.  A 
variety of userspace code uses the value obtained from 
/proc/pid/attr/current and/or SO_PEERSEC as something that it can pass 
to printf-like functions using a %s specifier for inclusion in logs and 
audit messages.

> The "context" has a defined format, and it would
> be up to the authors to come up with a printable ASCII representation of the
> binary blob. If they care. They're not required to provide a "context".



  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-04 13:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20200124002306.3552-1-casey.ref@schaufler-ca.com>
2020-01-24  0:22 ` [PATCH v14 00/23] LSM: Module stacking for AppArmor Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24  0:22   ` [PATCH v14 01/23] LSM: Infrastructure management of the sock security Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24  0:22   ` [PATCH v14 02/23] LSM: Create and manage the lsmblob data structure Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24 14:21     ` Stephen Smalley
2020-01-24  0:22   ` [PATCH v14 03/23] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_audit_rule_match Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24  0:22   ` [PATCH v14 04/23] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_kernel_act_as Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24  0:22   ` [PATCH v14 05/23] net: Prepare UDS for security module stacking Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24  0:22   ` [PATCH v14 06/23] Use lsmblob in security_secctx_to_secid Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24 14:29     ` Stephen Smalley
2020-01-24  0:22   ` [PATCH v14 07/23] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_secid_to_secctx Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24  0:22   ` [PATCH v14 08/23] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_ipc_getsecid Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24  0:22   ` [PATCH v14 09/23] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_task_getsecid Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24  0:22   ` [PATCH v14 10/23] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_inode_getsecid Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24  0:22   ` [PATCH v14 11/23] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_cred_getsecid Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24  0:22   ` [PATCH v14 12/23] IMA: Change internal interfaces to use lsmblobs Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24  0:22   ` [PATCH v14 13/23] LSM: Specify which LSM to display Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24  0:22   ` [PATCH v14 14/23] LSM: Ensure the correct LSM context releaser Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24  0:22   ` [PATCH v14 15/23] LSM: Use lsmcontext in security_secid_to_secctx Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24  0:22   ` [PATCH v14 16/23] LSM: Use lsmcontext in security_inode_getsecctx Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24  0:23   ` [PATCH v14 17/23] LSM: security_secid_to_secctx in netlink netfilter Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24  0:23   ` [PATCH v14 18/23] NET: Store LSM netlabel data in a lsmblob Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24 14:36     ` Stephen Smalley
2020-01-24  0:23   ` [PATCH v14 19/23] LSM: Verify LSM display sanity in binder Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24  0:23   ` [PATCH v14 20/23] Audit: Add subj_LSM fields when necessary Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24  0:23   ` [PATCH v14 21/23] Audit: Include object data for all security modules Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24  0:23   ` [PATCH v14 22/23] LSM: Add /proc attr entry for full LSM context Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24 14:42     ` Stephen Smalley
2020-01-24 16:20       ` Stephen Smalley
2020-01-24 19:28         ` Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24 20:16           ` Stephen Smalley
2020-01-27 20:05             ` Simon McVittie
2020-02-03 20:54               ` John Johansen
2020-01-27 22:49             ` Casey Schaufler
2020-01-31 22:10             ` Casey Schaufler
2020-02-03 18:54               ` Stephen Smalley
2020-02-03 19:37                 ` Stephen Smalley
2020-02-03 21:39                   ` Casey Schaufler
2020-02-04 13:37                     ` Stephen Smalley [this message]
2020-02-04 17:14                       ` Casey Schaufler
2020-02-10 11:56                 ` Simon McVittie
2020-02-10 13:25                   ` Stephen Smalley
2020-02-10 14:55                     ` Stephen Smalley
2020-02-10 18:32                       ` Casey Schaufler
2020-02-10 19:00                         ` John Johansen
2020-02-11 15:59                           ` Stephen Smalley
2020-02-11 17:58                             ` John Johansen
2020-02-11 18:35                               ` Casey Schaufler
2020-02-11 19:11                                 ` John Johansen
2020-02-10 18:56                       ` John Johansen
2020-02-03 21:02             ` John Johansen
2020-02-03 21:43               ` Casey Schaufler
2020-02-03 22:49                 ` John Johansen
2020-02-03 20:59           ` John Johansen
2020-01-24  0:23   ` [PATCH v14 23/23] AppArmor: Remove the exclusive flag Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24 15:05   ` [PATCH v14 00/23] LSM: Module stacking for AppArmor Stephen Smalley
2020-01-24 21:04   ` Stephen Smalley
2020-01-24 21:49     ` Casey Schaufler
2020-01-27 16:14       ` Stephen Smalley
2020-01-27 16:56         ` KASAN slab-out-of-bounds in tun_chr_open/sock_init_data (Was: Re: [PATCH v14 00/23] LSM: Module stacking for AppArmor) Stephen Smalley
2020-01-27 17:34           ` Casey Schaufler
2020-01-27 17:16         ` [PATCH v14 00/23] LSM: Module stacking for AppArmor Casey Schaufler

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