[Tech-board-discuss] Linux Foundation Technical Advisory Board Elections -- voting procedures

[Tech-board-discuss] Linux Foundation Technical Advisory Board Elections -- voting procedures

[Laura Abbott]

On behalf of the Linux Foundation Technical Advisory Board (TAB), I'd
like to announce the voting procedures for the 2020 TAB elections.
The pool of eligible voters will consist of the following:

1) All attendees of the Linux Plumbers conference (i.e. kernel summit)

2) Anyone who is not a kernel summit attendee will also be eligible to
vote if the following criteria are met:
-- There exists three kernel commits in a mainline or stable released
kernel that
--- Have a commit date in the year 2019 or 2020
--- Contain an e-mail address in one of the following tags or merged
tags (e.g. Reviewed-and-tested-by)
---- Signed-off-by
---- Tested-by
---- Reported-by
---- Reviewed-by
---- Acked-by

We will be using the electronic voting method that we used in 2019. All
Linux Plumbers Attendees will automatically receive a ballot. Anyone
who is otherwise eligible to vote should e-mail 
tab-elections@lists.linuxfoundation.org to request a ballot. The deadline
for requesting a ballot is August 17, 00:00 UTC (one week before
Linux Plumbers)

For those who would like to know the thought process behind this:

Last year, we successfully used electronic voting for the TAB
elections. Given the circumstances of this year, we have no other
reasonable option for voting. While we could continue to limit voting to
kernel summit attendees, one of the goals of moving away from in person
voting was to potentially expand the voter pool. Since kernel summit is
not being held in person this year, it makes sense to expand the voting
pool at the same time.

We will be sending a call for nominations and announcements about
when voting will start at a later date.

If you have any questions, feel free to reach out to the tab at
tab@lists.linuxfoundation.org

Re: [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] Linux Foundation Technical Advisory Board Elections -- voting procedures

[Bird, Tim]

> -----Original Message-----
> From:  Laura Abbott
> 
> On behalf of the Linux Foundation Technical Advisory Board (TAB), I'd
> like to announce the voting procedures for the 2020 TAB elections.
> The pool of eligible voters will consist of the following:
> 
> 1) All attendees of the Linux Plumbers conference (i.e. kernel summit)
> 
> 2) Anyone who is not a kernel summit attendee will also be eligible to
> vote if the following criteria are met:
> -- There exists three kernel commits in a mainline or stable released
> kernel that
> --- Have a commit date in the year 2019 or 2020
> --- Contain an e-mail address in one of the following tags or merged
> tags (e.g. Reviewed-and-tested-by)
> ---- Signed-off-by
> ---- Tested-by
> ---- Reported-by
> ---- Reviewed-by
> ---- Acked-by
> 
> We will be using the electronic voting method that we used in 2019. All
> Linux Plumbers Attendees will automatically receive a ballot. Anyone
> who is otherwise eligible to vote should e-mail
> tab-elections@lists.linuxfoundation.org to request a ballot. The deadline
> for requesting a ballot is August 17, 00:00 UTC (one week before
> Linux Plumbers)
> 
> For those who would like to know the thought process behind this:
> 
> Last year, we successfully used electronic voting for the TAB
> elections. Given the circumstances of this year, we have no other
> reasonable option for voting. While we could continue to limit voting to
> kernel summit attendees, one of the goals of moving away from in person
> voting was to potentially expand the voter pool. Since kernel summit is
> not being held in person this year, it makes sense to expand the voting
> pool at the same time.
> 
> We will be sending a call for nominations and announcements about
> when voting will start at a later date.
> 
> If you have any questions, feel free to reach out to the tab at
> tab@lists.linuxfoundation.org

I know it's a lot of work to put this together.  Thanks very much for this
new process.  I think it's a great change.

Regards,
  -- Tim

Re: [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] Linux Foundation Technical Advisory Board Elections -- voting procedures

[Daniel Vetter]

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 12:44 AM Bird, Tim <Tim.Bird@sony.com> wrote:
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:  Laura Abbott
> >
> > On behalf of the Linux Foundation Technical Advisory Board (TAB), I'd
> > like to announce the voting procedures for the 2020 TAB elections.
> > The pool of eligible voters will consist of the following:
> >
> > 1) All attendees of the Linux Plumbers conference (i.e. kernel summit)
> >
> > 2) Anyone who is not a kernel summit attendee will also be eligible to
> > vote if the following criteria are met:
> > -- There exists three kernel commits in a mainline or stable released
> > kernel that
> > --- Have a commit date in the year 2019 or 2020
> > --- Contain an e-mail address in one of the following tags or merged
> > tags (e.g. Reviewed-and-tested-by)
> > ---- Signed-off-by
> > ---- Tested-by
> > ---- Reported-by
> > ---- Reviewed-by
> > ---- Acked-by
> >
> > We will be using the electronic voting method that we used in 2019. All
> > Linux Plumbers Attendees will automatically receive a ballot. Anyone
> > who is otherwise eligible to vote should e-mail
> > tab-elections@lists.linuxfoundation.org to request a ballot. The deadline
> > for requesting a ballot is August 17, 00:00 UTC (one week before
> > Linux Plumbers)
> >
> > For those who would like to know the thought process behind this:
> >
> > Last year, we successfully used electronic voting for the TAB
> > elections. Given the circumstances of this year, we have no other
> > reasonable option for voting. While we could continue to limit voting to
> > kernel summit attendees, one of the goals of moving away from in person
> > voting was to potentially expand the voter pool. Since kernel summit is
> > not being held in person this year, it makes sense to expand the voting
> > pool at the same time.
> >
> > We will be sending a call for nominations and announcements about
> > when voting will start at a later date.
> >
> > If you have any questions, feel free to reach out to the tab at
> > tab@lists.linuxfoundation.org
>
> I know it's a lot of work to put this together.  Thanks very much for this
> new process.  I think it's a great change.

Same here, I think this is excellent.

I do think the big masses of contributors have fairly different pain
points and issues from what makes maintainer's lifes hard, so for the
imo very unlikely outcome that this will shift the TAB to be one-sided
representing contributors only, no maintainers, we can easily fix that
by formalizing a subset of the maintainer summit as a permanent thing.
De facto this is how things work anyway, can't merge stuff without
maintainers :-)

Cheers, Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch

Re: [Tech-board-discuss] Linux Foundation Technical Advisory Board Elections -- voting procedures

[Laura Abbott]

On 7/27/20 5:31 PM, Laura Abbott wrote:
> On behalf of the Linux Foundation Technical Advisory Board (TAB), I'd
> like to announce the voting procedures for the 2020 TAB elections.
> The pool of eligible voters will consist of the following:
> 
> 1) All attendees of the Linux Plumbers conference (i.e. kernel summit)
> 
> 2) Anyone who is not a kernel summit attendee will also be eligible to
> vote if the following criteria are met:
> -- There exists three kernel commits in a mainline or stable released
> kernel that
> --- Have a commit date in the year 2019 or 2020
> --- Contain an e-mail address in one of the following tags or merged
> tags (e.g. Reviewed-and-tested-by)
> ---- Signed-off-by
> ---- Tested-by
> ---- Reported-by
> ---- Reviewed-by
> ---- Acked-by
> 
> We will be using the electronic voting method that we used in 2019. All
> Linux Plumbers Attendees will automatically receive a ballot. Anyone
> who is otherwise eligible to vote should e-mail 
> tab-elections@lists.linuxfoundation.org to request a ballot. The deadline
> for requesting a ballot is August 17, 00:00 UTC (one week before
> Linux Plumbers)
> 
> For those who would like to know the thought process behind this:
> 
> Last year, we successfully used electronic voting for the TAB
> elections. Given the circumstances of this year, we have no other
> reasonable option for voting. While we could continue to limit voting to
> kernel summit attendees, one of the goals of moving away from in person
> voting was to potentially expand the voter pool. Since kernel summit is
> not being held in person this year, it makes sense to expand the voting
> pool at the same time.
> 
> We will be sending a call for nominations and announcements about
> when voting will start at a later date.
> 
> If you have any questions, feel free to reach out to the tab at
> tab@lists.linuxfoundation.org

As a reminder, this vote is coming up. Some FAQs from last year on
virtual voting:

Q: What's the software used for voting?
A: We will be using the hosted version of the Condorcet Internet
Voting Service (CIVS) at https://civs.cs.cornell.edu

Q: Is this code open source?
A: Yes. The code is available under a BSD-like research license

Q: Is this method of voting secure?
A: Privacy and security is a focus of CIVS. See
https://civs.cs.cornell.edu/sec_priv.html for more information.

Q: The website mentions ranked choice voting. What is this?
A: In ranked choice voting, you rank your preferred choices from most
to least liked. The theory is this results in a more accurate
representation of what the voter pool wants.

Q: The description mentions an 'election supervisor'. What is this role?
A: The election supervisor's role is to start and stop the poll, send
links to voters, and set various options for the poll. A single e-mail
address is used to e-mail the link to manage the election, after which
anyone with the link can manage the poll.

Q: Who is the election supervisor for the TAB elections?
A: We have created a mailing list for election management, 
tab-elections@lists.linuxfoundation.org

Q: What if I lose the e-mail before I vote?
A: Please e-mail tab-elections@lists.linuxfoundation.org

Q: What if I want to change my vote?
A: This is not possible, please make sure you've made your final choices
when you click submit.

Q: What if I want to practice voting?
A: CIVS has a number of sample polls available. Feel free to vote in 
those to see how the process works.

Re: [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] Linux Foundation Technical Advisory Board Elections -- voting procedures

[Johannes Berg]

Hi Laura,

Seeing your reminder reminded me :)

> We will be using the electronic voting method that we used in 2019. All
> Linux Plumbers Attendees will automatically receive a ballot. Anyone
> who is otherwise eligible to vote should e-mail 
> tab-elections@lists.linuxfoundation.org to request a ballot. The deadline
> for requesting a ballot is August 17, 00:00 UTC (one week before
> Linux Plumbers)

Will you be sending out some kind of voting tokens for the ballot? And
if so, when is that supposed to happen? I (believe I) have requested a
ballot, but didn't get a response so far.

Thanks,
Johannes

Re: [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] Linux Foundation Technical Advisory Board Elections -- voting procedures

[Laura Abbott]

On 8/13/20 10:31 AM, Johannes Berg wrote:
> Hi Laura,
> 
> Seeing your reminder reminded me :)
> 
>> We will be using the electronic voting method that we used in 2019. All
>> Linux Plumbers Attendees will automatically receive a ballot. Anyone
>> who is otherwise eligible to vote should e-mail
>> tab-elections@lists.linuxfoundation.org to request a ballot. The deadline
>> for requesting a ballot is August 17, 00:00 UTC (one week before
>> Linux Plumbers)
> 
> Will you be sending out some kind of voting tokens for the ballot? And
> if so, when is that supposed to happen? I (believe I) have requested a
> ballot, but didn't get a response so far.
> 
> Thanks,
> Johannes
> 

The voting itself will be taking place during the week of Linux
Plumbers/Kernel summit, August 24-28. Keep an eye out for the
ballot during that time period. We'll send out another e-mail
when the ballots go out.

Thanks,
Laura

Re: [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] Linux Foundation Technical Advisory Board Elections -- voting procedures

[Johannes Berg]

On Thu, 2020-08-13 at 10:35 -0400, Laura Abbott wrote:

> The voting itself will be taking place during the week of Linux
> Plumbers/Kernel summit, August 24-28. Keep an eye out for the
> ballot during that time period. We'll send out another e-mail
> when the ballots go out.

OK, thanks for the info. Good enough for now I guess.

Perhaps it might be nice to send out an acknowledgement ("your
registration has been received"), to
 (a) avoid this question, and
 (b) catch any technical errors (emails not delivered, ...)

But knowing that no response was expected already helps :)

Thanks,
johannes