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From: Heng Qi <hengqi@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>,
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Cc: "Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Yuri Benditovich <yuri.benditovich@daynix.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio-dev] RE: [virtio-comment] RE: [PATCH v9] virtio-net: support inner header hash
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 00:44:26 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <85de2618-6018-5436-6e8a-4d5253b42e64@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR12MB548135774CD69A5A5F475FB2DCA59@PH0PR12MB5481.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>



在 2023/2/21 下午11:32, Parav Pandit 写道:
>> From: Heng Qi <hengqi@linux.alibaba.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2023 8:34 AM
>>> Even without a queue overflow, this shared receive queue may not have a
>> balanced number of packets.
>>> For example, tunnel-2 occupied 90% of the queue and left only 10% for
>> tunnel-1.
>>> So, your example is right (and extreme), a generic mention of QoS covers
>> both aspects.
>>> Secondly "user inside the tunnel" is challenging to explain.
>>> In above sentence talks specifically about the "receive queue" as an object.
>>>
>> "overflow" in my example. If we only use a one-sentence summary to describe
>> tunnel risks, then I think this subparagraph is called "QoS problem for tunnel
>> hash".
>>
> Yes, Tunnel Qos limitations
>
>>>> struct virtio_net_rss_config {
>>>>>>         le32 hash_types;
>>>>>> +    le32 hash_tunnel_types;
>>>>> This field is not needed as device config space advertisement for
>>>>> the support
>>>> is enough.
>>>>
>>>> If so, virtio_net_hash_config does not require hash_tunnel_types when
>>>> it does not need to configure the specific tunnel(s).
>>>>
>>>>> If the intent is to enable hashing for the specific tunnel(s), an
>>>>> individual
>>>> command is better.
>>>>
>>>> Drivers MAY filter out some tunneling types when negotiating this feature.
>>>> Do you think it would be better for us to add a separate command? I
>>>> don't see tools like ethtool that can configure specific tunnels in userspace.
>>>>
>>> The reason I proposed different command is, Let's say we have only
>>> single command.
>>> Rss config command has many other fields unrelated to the inner hash.
>> Yes. For inner hash, fields such as indirection table are irrelevant.
>>
> Right.
>
>>> Hence, to enable inner hash, the driver needs to supply the exact same value
>> for unrelated fields to the same value.
>>> And device needs to compare it with the old value and maintain some sort of
>> cache to derive that nothing changes from the previous hash config, hence,
>> ignore hw configuration for rss.
>>> This mechanism slows down the command for the unrelated task.
>> Totally agree.
>>
>>> Hence, I am considering a separate command that would be simple for the
>> device and driver to implement.
>>
>> I agree with you. Do you want me to do it in this patch, or should we do it in
>> another patch?
>>
> It should be in this patch set because enablement in the device is linked to this capability exposed in this patch.
>
>  From patch split point of view,
>
> Patch-1 to introduce the feature bit, description, and link to CVQ dependency.
> Patch-2 for its link in virtio_net_config structure and description.
> Patch-3 for new command touching control VQ pieces.

Yes, and you seem to have missed my other replies in this thread:), I 
rephrased it here:
virtio_net_hash_config seems to be reusable, as the v9 patch is doing, 
why don't we re-use it?
The reason I can think of is to not expand the virtio_net_hash_config 
structure, just set a separate
structure for VIRTIO_NET_F_HASH_TUNNEL and include hash_tunnel_types?

Thanks.
>
> We can always squash the patch to single when/if it is hard to understand in multiple patches.


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  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-21 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-18 14:37 [PATCH v9] virtio-net: support inner header hash Heng Qi
2023-02-20 15:53 ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-02-20 16:12   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-21  4:20 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-21  6:14   ` [virtio-comment] " Heng Qi
2023-02-21 12:47     ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-21 13:34       ` Heng Qi
2023-02-21 15:32         ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-21 16:44           ` Heng Qi [this message]
2023-02-21 16:50             ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-02-21 17:13               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-21 17:40                 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-02-21 17:44                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-21 17:54                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-21 17:17               ` [virtio-comment] " Heng Qi
2023-02-21 17:39                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-21 13:37       ` Heng Qi
2023-02-21 17:05   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-21 19:29     ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-21 21:23       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-21 21:36         ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-21 21:46           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-21 22:32             ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-21 23:18               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-22  1:41                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-22  2:51                 ` [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-02-22  2:34       ` [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-02-22  6:21         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-22  7:03           ` Heng Qi
2023-02-22 11:29             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-21 17:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-22  3:22   ` Jason Wang
2023-02-22  6:46     ` Heng Qi
2023-02-22 11:30       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-23  2:50       ` Jason Wang
2023-02-23  4:41         ` [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-02-24  2:45           ` Jason Wang
2023-02-24  4:47             ` [virtio-comment] " Heng Qi
2023-02-24  8:07             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-23 13:03         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-24  2:26           ` Jason Wang
2023-02-24  8:06             ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-27  4:07               ` Jason Wang
2023-02-27  7:39                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-27  8:35                   ` Jason Wang
2023-02-27 12:38                     ` Heng Qi
2023-02-27 17:49                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28  3:04                       ` Jason Wang
2023-02-28  8:52                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28  9:56                           ` [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-02-28 11:04                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-01  2:36                           ` Jason Wang
2023-02-23 13:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-23 14:40   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-02-24  8:13     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-24 14:38       ` [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-02-24 17:10         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-27  0:29       ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-24  4:42   ` Heng Qi
2023-02-24  8:04     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28 11:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-01  2:56   ` [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-03-08 14:39     ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-09  4:55       ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-03-09 19:36         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-11  3:23           ` Heng Qi
2023-03-15 11:58             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-15 12:55               ` Heng Qi
2023-03-15 14:57                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-16 13:17                   ` Heng Qi
2023-03-20 19:45                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-30 12:10                       ` Heng Qi
2023-03-20 19:48                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-30 12:37                   ` Heng Qi
2023-04-08 10:29                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-04-10 13:26                       ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-03-01  3:30   ` [virtio-comment] " Heng Qi
2023-03-09 12:28   ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi

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