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From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	ocfs2-devel@oss.oracle.com, xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: vfs/xfs: directio updates to ease COW handling V2
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2016 16:53:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x49twlpxxz3.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160203200159.GK20038@birch.djwong.org> (Darrick J. Wong's message of "Wed, 3 Feb 2016 12:01:59 -0800")

"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com> writes:

> On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 02:43:02PM -0500, Jeff Moyer wrote:
>> Hi, Christoph,
>> 
>> Can you explain a bit what you mean by easing COW handling?  Whenever I
>> see COW referenced near DIO, my mind always turns to g_u_p vs. fork.
>
> Just to clarify, I'm talking about copy on write for disk blocks, not for
> memory pages.
>
> Basically, XFS implements (disk block) copy on write for (perfectly block
> aligned) directio writes by allocating a set of replacement blocks, mapping the
> dio writes to the new blocks, and playing a punch/remap trick to map the new
> blocks into the file at the appropriate offset.
>
> If the write fails then we don't want do the remap, so the dio_complete handler
> has to know whether or not the IO succeeded, hence the new parameter.
> Furthermore, if the write succeeds but the remap fails, we also want to be able
> to report that to userspace, hence the change of return value from void to int.
>
> (If the dio write isn't block aligned, we fall back to the page cache.)
>
> Hope that helps,

Eric said the magic word: reflink.  I think I've got it now.

Thanks!
Jeff

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	ocfs2-devel@oss.oracle.com, xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: vfs/xfs: directio updates to ease COW handling V2
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2016 16:53:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x49twlpxxz3.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160203200159.GK20038@birch.djwong.org> (Darrick J. Wong's message of "Wed, 3 Feb 2016 12:01:59 -0800")

"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com> writes:

> On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 02:43:02PM -0500, Jeff Moyer wrote:
>> Hi, Christoph,
>> 
>> Can you explain a bit what you mean by easing COW handling?  Whenever I
>> see COW referenced near DIO, my mind always turns to g_u_p vs. fork.
>
> Just to clarify, I'm talking about copy on write for disk blocks, not for
> memory pages.
>
> Basically, XFS implements (disk block) copy on write for (perfectly block
> aligned) directio writes by allocating a set of replacement blocks, mapping the
> dio writes to the new blocks, and playing a punch/remap trick to map the new
> blocks into the file at the appropriate offset.
>
> If the write fails then we don't want do the remap, so the dio_complete handler
> has to know whether or not the IO succeeded, hence the new parameter.
> Furthermore, if the write succeeds but the remap fails, we also want to be able
> to report that to userspace, hence the change of return value from void to int.
>
> (If the dio write isn't block aligned, we fall back to the page cache.)
>
> Hope that helps,

Eric said the magic word: reflink.  I think I've got it now.

Thanks!
Jeff

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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	ocfs2-devel@oss.oracle.com, xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: [Ocfs2-devel] vfs/xfs: directio updates to ease COW handling V2
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2016 16:53:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x49twlpxxz3.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160203200159.GK20038@birch.djwong.org> (Darrick J. Wong's message of "Wed, 3 Feb 2016 12:01:59 -0800")

"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com> writes:

> On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 02:43:02PM -0500, Jeff Moyer wrote:
>> Hi, Christoph,
>> 
>> Can you explain a bit what you mean by easing COW handling?  Whenever I
>> see COW referenced near DIO, my mind always turns to g_u_p vs. fork.
>
> Just to clarify, I'm talking about copy on write for disk blocks, not for
> memory pages.
>
> Basically, XFS implements (disk block) copy on write for (perfectly block
> aligned) directio writes by allocating a set of replacement blocks, mapping the
> dio writes to the new blocks, and playing a punch/remap trick to map the new
> blocks into the file at the appropriate offset.
>
> If the write fails then we don't want do the remap, so the dio_complete handler
> has to know whether or not the IO succeeded, hence the new parameter.
> Furthermore, if the write succeeds but the remap fails, we also want to be able
> to report that to userspace, hence the change of return value from void to int.
>
> (If the dio write isn't block aligned, we fall back to the page cache.)
>
> Hope that helps,

Eric said the magic word: reflink.  I think I've got it now.

Thanks!
Jeff

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-03 21:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-03 18:40 vfs/xfs: directio updates to ease COW handling V2 Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-03 18:40 ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-03 18:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-03 18:40 ` [PATCH 1/3] direct-io: always call ->end_io if non-NULL Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-03 18:40   ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-03 18:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-03 19:55   ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-02-03 19:55     ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Darrick J. Wong
2016-02-03 19:55     ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-02-04  7:14     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-04  7:14       ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-04  7:14       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-04  8:17       ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-02-04  8:17         ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Darrick J. Wong
2016-02-04  8:17         ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-02-03 18:40 ` [PATCH 2/3] xfs: don't use ioends for direct write completions Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-03 18:40   ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-03 18:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-05 21:57   ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-02-05 21:57     ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Darrick J. Wong
2016-02-05 21:57     ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-02-05 22:36     ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-05 22:36       ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Dave Chinner
2016-02-05 22:36       ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-08  1:00   ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-08  1:00     ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Dave Chinner
2016-02-08  1:00     ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-08  6:17     ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-08  6:17       ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Dave Chinner
2016-02-08  6:17       ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-08  7:31       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-08  7:31         ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-08  7:31         ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-08  9:16         ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-08  9:16           ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Dave Chinner
2016-02-08  9:16           ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-08  9:22           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-08  9:22             ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-08  9:22             ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-03 18:40 ` [PATCH 3/3] xfs: fold xfs_vm_do_dio into xfs_vm_direct_IO Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-03 18:40   ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-03 18:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-03 18:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-03 19:43 ` vfs/xfs: directio updates to ease COW handling V2 Jeff Moyer
2016-02-03 19:43   ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Jeff Moyer
2016-02-03 19:43   ` Jeff Moyer
2016-02-03 20:01   ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-02-03 20:01     ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Darrick J. Wong
2016-02-03 20:01     ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-02-03 21:53     ` Jeff Moyer [this message]
2016-02-03 21:53       ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Jeff Moyer
2016-02-03 21:53       ` Jeff Moyer

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