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* Test Xen 4.8 RC4  SUCCESS 26.10.16
@ 2016-10-26 18:47 Juergen Schinker
  2016-10-27  9:53 ` Wei Liu
  2016-10-27 13:58 ` Test Xen 4.8 RC4 SUCCESS 26.10.16 Dario Faggioli
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Juergen Schinker @ 2016-10-26 18:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wei Liu, xen-devel

* Hardware:
 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1220L V2 @ 2.30GHz
 Sandisk SSD
 32G Ram
* Software:

Debian Stretch/testing is dom0
 
* Guest operating systems:

Guests Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Debian Stretch/Sid 

Ubuntu 16.10 yakity yak with latest 4.8 kernel works 
 
* Functionality tested:
xl 
creating booting 
pygrub
credit2

* Comments:

 
I can't shut down cleanly because of stupid guests and the xenstored.pid keeps stopping the start of xenstored

root@xen:/etc/xen# xl info
host                   : xen
release                : 4.7.0-1-amd64
version                : #1 SMP Debian 4.7.8-1 (2016-10-19)
machine                : x86_64
nr_cpus                : 4
max_cpu_id             : 3
nr_nodes               : 1
cores_per_socket       : 2
threads_per_core       : 2
cpu_mhz                : 2312
hw_caps                : b7ebfbff:77bae3ff:28100800:00000001:00000001:00000281:00000000:00000100
virt_caps              : hvm hvm_directio
total_memory           : 32711
free_memory            : 0
sharing_freed_memory   : 0
sharing_used_memory    : 0
outstanding_claims     : 0
free_cpus              : 0                                                                                                                                                                                                
xen_major              : 4                                                                                                                                                                                                
xen_minor              : 8                                                                                                                                                                                                
xen_extra              : .0-rc                                                                                                                                                                                            
xen_version            : 4.8.0-rc                                                                                                                                                                                         
xen_caps               : xen-3.0-x86_64 xen-3.0-x86_32p hvm-3.0-x86_32 hvm-3.0-x86_32p hvm-3.0-x86_64                                                                                                                     
xen_scheduler          : credit2                                                                                                                                                                                          
xen_pagesize           : 4096                                                                                                                                                                                             
platform_params        : virt_start=0xffff800000000000                                                                                                                                                                    
xen_changeset          : Wed Oct 26 12:06:17 2016 +0100 git:0d250b6                                                                                                                                                       
xen_commandline        : placeholder sched=credit2 iommu=1                                                                                                                                                                
cc_compiler            : gcc (Debian 6.2.0-6) 6.2.0 20161010                                                                                                                                                              
cc_compile_by          : root                                                                                                                                                                                             
cc_compile_domain      :                                                                                                                                                                                                  
cc_compile_date        : Wed Oct 26 12:55:28 BST 2016                                                                                                                                                                     
build_id               : b8fcc0bce9447f4afd630bf0c7f72a6134413ac8
xend_config_format     : 4

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* Re: Test Xen 4.8 RC4  SUCCESS 26.10.16
  2016-10-26 18:47 Test Xen 4.8 RC4 SUCCESS 26.10.16 Juergen Schinker
@ 2016-10-27  9:53 ` Wei Liu
  2016-10-27 22:01   ` Test Xen 4.8 RC4 not stable 27.10.16 Juergen Schinker
  2016-10-27 13:58 ` Test Xen 4.8 RC4 SUCCESS 26.10.16 Dario Faggioli
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Wei Liu @ 2016-10-27  9:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Juergen Schinker; +Cc: Wei Liu, xen-devel

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 07:47:59PM +0100, Juergen Schinker wrote:
> * Hardware:
>  Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1220L V2 @ 2.30GHz
>  Sandisk SSD
>  32G Ram
> * Software:
> 
> Debian Stretch/testing is dom0
>  
> * Guest operating systems:
> 
> Guests Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Debian Stretch/Sid 
> 
> Ubuntu 16.10 yakity yak with latest 4.8 kernel works 
>  
> * Functionality tested:
> xl 
> creating booting 
> pygrub
> credit2
> 
> * Comments:
> 
>  
> I can't shut down cleanly because of stupid guests and the xenstored.pid keeps stopping the start of xenstored
> 

For the second part, xenstored.pid normally would be stored under
/var/run, which should be cleared whenever the system is booted [0].

Is it possible that your have other init machinery that tries to start
xenstored?

http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#VARRUNRUNTIMEVARIABLEDATA

Wei.

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* Re: Test Xen 4.8 RC4  SUCCESS 26.10.16
  2016-10-26 18:47 Test Xen 4.8 RC4 SUCCESS 26.10.16 Juergen Schinker
  2016-10-27  9:53 ` Wei Liu
@ 2016-10-27 13:58 ` Dario Faggioli
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Dario Faggioli @ 2016-10-27 13:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Juergen Schinker, Wei Liu, xen-devel


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On Wed, 2016-10-26 at 19:47 +0100, Juergen Schinker wrote:
> * Hardware:
>  Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1220L V2 @ 2.30GHz
>  Sandisk SSD
>  32G Ram
> * Software:
> 
> Debian Stretch/testing is dom0
>  
> * Guest operating systems:
> 
> Guests Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Debian Stretch/Sid 
> 
> Ubuntu 16.10 yakity yak with latest 4.8 kernel works 
>  
> * Functionality tested:
> xl 
> creating booting 
> pygrub
> credit2
> 
> * Comments:
> 
>  
> I can't shut down cleanly because of stupid guests and the
> xenstored.pid keeps stopping the start of xenstored
> 
So, what's the issue? I've seen your other thread, but it ends up with
you pasting a message that suggests xenstored is working fine, and in
general I could not figure out what the problem is from there.

FYI, for may day-to-day testing of my development work on Xen, I use a
Debian Sid host.

I configure Xen with this:

./configure --prefix=/usr/local --enable-systemd --disable-qemu-traditional --disable-stubdom --with-xenstored=oxenstored

I create a .deb package with `make debball' (because I build on a
different machine), ship it and install it on the test box.

This is what systemd sees:

root@Zhaman:~# systemctl |grep xen
  sys-devices-virtual-net-xenbr0.device                                                    loaded active plugged   /sys/devices/virtual/net/xenbr0
  sys-subsystem-net-devices-xenbr0.device                                                  loaded active plugged   /sys/subsystem/net/devices/xenbr0
  proc-xen.mount                                                                           loaded active mounted   Mount /proc/xen files
  var-lib-xenstored.mount                                                                  loaded active mounted   mount xenstore file system
  xen-init-dom0.service                                                                    loaded active exited    xen-init-dom0, initialise Dom0 configuration (xenstore nodes, JSON configuration stub)
  xen-qemu-dom0-disk-backend.service                                                       loaded active running   qemu for xen dom0 disk backend
  xen-watchdog.service                                                                     loaded active running   Xen-watchdog - run xen watchdog daemon
  xenconsoled.service                                                                      loaded active running   Xenconsoled - handles logging from guest consoles and hypervisor
  xendomains.service                                                                       loaded active exited    Xendomains - start and stop guests on boot and shutdown
  xenstored.service                                                                        loaded active exited    The Xen xenstore

About xenstored specifically:

root@Zhaman:~# systemctl status xenstored
● xenstored.service - The Xen xenstore
   Loaded: loaded (/usr/local/lib/systemd/system/xenstored.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
   Active: active (exited) since Thu 2016-10-27 15:12:21 CEST; 43min ago
 Main PID: 1060 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
    Tasks: 1 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/xenstored.service
           └─1092 /usr/local/sbin/oxenstored --pid-file /var/run/xen/xenstored.pid

Oct 27 15:12:21 Zhaman systemd[1]: Starting The Xen xenstore...
Oct 27 15:12:21 Zhaman systemd[1]: Started The Xen xenstore.
Oct 27 15:12:21 Zhaman launch-xenstore[1060]: Starting /usr/local/sbin/oxenstored...

And:

root@Zhaman:~# ps aux | grep xenstore
root      1092  0.0  0.5  56828  5256 ?        S    15:12   0:00 /usr/local/sbin/oxenstored --pid-file /var/run/xen/xenstored.pid
root      3655  0.0  0.1  12772   980 pts/0    S+   15:56   0:00 grep xenstore
root@Zhaman:~# ls -l /var/run/xen/
total 12
-rw------- 1 root root 5 Oct 27 15:12 qemu-dom0.pid
-rw------- 1 root root 5 Oct 27 15:12 xenconsoled.pid
-rw-r----- 1 root root 5 Oct 27 15:12 xenstored.pid

Regards,
Dario
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* Re: Test Xen 4.8 RC4  not stable 27.10.16
  2016-10-27  9:53 ` Wei Liu
@ 2016-10-27 22:01   ` Juergen Schinker
  2016-10-28  9:29     ` Wei Liu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Juergen Schinker @ 2016-10-27 22:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wei Liu, xen-devel



----- On 27 Oct, 2016, at 09:53, Wei Liu wei.liu2@citrix.com wrote:

> For the second part, xenstored.pid normally would be stored under
> /var/run, which should be cleared whenever the system is booted [0].

I know but the /var/run/xenstored.pid  stays but anyway

RC4 is not so stable - I have random freezes 

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* Re: Test Xen 4.8 RC4  not stable 27.10.16
  2016-10-27 22:01   ` Test Xen 4.8 RC4 not stable 27.10.16 Juergen Schinker
@ 2016-10-28  9:29     ` Wei Liu
  2016-10-28 13:07       ` Boris Ostrovsky
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Wei Liu @ 2016-10-28  9:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Juergen Schinker; +Cc: Wei Liu, xen-devel

On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 11:01:50PM +0100, Juergen Schinker wrote:
> 
> 
> ----- On 27 Oct, 2016, at 09:53, Wei Liu wei.liu2@citrix.com wrote:
> 
> > For the second part, xenstored.pid normally would be stored under
> > /var/run, which should be cleared whenever the system is booted [0].
> 
> I know but the /var/run/xenstored.pid  stays but anyway
> 

Please check the content of that file and see if there is really such
process in your system.

It is possible that some other init scripts are interfering with
systemd. I don't know.

> RC4 is not so stable - I have random freezes 
> 


Please try to extract guest / hypervisor log that contains text of
interest.

Wei.

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* Re: Test Xen 4.8 RC4 not stable 27.10.16
  2016-10-28  9:29     ` Wei Liu
@ 2016-10-28 13:07       ` Boris Ostrovsky
  2016-10-28 15:01         ` Juergen Schinker
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Boris Ostrovsky @ 2016-10-28 13:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wei Liu, Juergen Schinker; +Cc: xen-devel

On 10/28/2016 05:29 AM, Wei Liu wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 11:01:50PM +0100, Juergen Schinker wrote:
>>
>> ----- On 27 Oct, 2016, at 09:53, Wei Liu wei.liu2@citrix.com wrote:
>>
>>> For the second part, xenstored.pid normally would be stored under
>>> /var/run, which should be cleared whenever the system is booted [0].
>> I know but the /var/run/xenstored.pid  stays but anyway
>>
> Please check the content of that file and see if there is really such
> process in your system.
>
> It is possible that some other init scripts are interfering with
> systemd. I don't know.


I believe at least on some distros /var/run should be soft-linked to
/run, otherwise whoever cleans up those directories (the command name
escapes me right now) will only remove files from /run and leave
/var/run (and therefore /var/run/xen/xenstored.pid) untouched.

And because xencommons checks for existence of this this file before
starting xenstored the latter never starts.

-boris


>
>> RC4 is not so stable - I have random freezes 
>>
>
> Please try to extract guest / hypervisor log that contains text of
> interest.
>
> Wei.
>
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* Re: Test Xen 4.8 RC4 not stable 27.10.16
  2016-10-28 13:07       ` Boris Ostrovsky
@ 2016-10-28 15:01         ` Juergen Schinker
  2016-10-28 15:30           ` Wei Liu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Juergen Schinker @ 2016-10-28 15:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Boris Ostrovsky, xen-devel; +Cc: Wei Liu



----- On 28 Oct, 2016, at 13:07, Boris Ostrovsky boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com wrote:

> I believe at least on some distros /var/run should be soft-linked to
> /run, otherwise whoever cleans up those directories (the command name
> escapes me right now) will only remove files from /run and leave
> /var/run (and therefore /var/run/xen/xenstored.pid) untouched.
> 
> And because xencommons checks for existence of this this file before
> starting xenstored the latter never starts.
> 
> -boris

root@xen:~# ls -la /var/run/xen/xenstored.pid 
-rw-r----- 1 root root 6 Oct 28 15:15 /var/run/xen/xenstored.pid

  
   33 ?        00:00:00 xenwatch
   34 ?        00:00:00 xenbus
   45 ?        00:00:00 xenbus_frontend
  785 ?        00:00:00 xen_pciback_wor
 1137 ?        00:00:00 xenwatchdogd
 1169 ?        00:00:00 xen-init-dom0
 1175 ?        00:00:00 xenconsoled

Thats exactly what I'm sayin , maybe we need a more intelligent check to see if xenstored is running

not just a simple pid check

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* Re: Test Xen 4.8 RC4 not stable 27.10.16
  2016-10-28 15:01         ` Juergen Schinker
@ 2016-10-28 15:30           ` Wei Liu
  2016-10-28 16:04             ` Boris Ostrovsky
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Wei Liu @ 2016-10-28 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Juergen Schinker; +Cc: Boris Ostrovsky, Wei Liu, xen-devel

On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 04:01:54PM +0100, Juergen Schinker wrote:
> 
> 
> ----- On 28 Oct, 2016, at 13:07, Boris Ostrovsky boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com wrote:
> 
> > I believe at least on some distros /var/run should be soft-linked to
> > /run, otherwise whoever cleans up those directories (the command name
> > escapes me right now) will only remove files from /run and leave
> > /var/run (and therefore /var/run/xen/xenstored.pid) untouched.
> > 
> > And because xencommons checks for existence of this this file before
> > starting xenstored the latter never starts.
> > 
> > -boris
> 
> root@xen:~# ls -la /var/run/xen/xenstored.pid 
> -rw-r----- 1 root root 6 Oct 28 15:15 /var/run/xen/xenstored.pid
> 
>   
>    33 ?        00:00:00 xenwatch
>    34 ?        00:00:00 xenbus
>    45 ?        00:00:00 xenbus_frontend
>   785 ?        00:00:00 xen_pciback_wor
>  1137 ?        00:00:00 xenwatchdogd
>  1169 ?        00:00:00 xen-init-dom0
>  1175 ?        00:00:00 xenconsoled
> 
> Thats exactly what I'm sayin , maybe we need a more intelligent check to see if xenstored is running
> 
> not just a simple pid check
> 

But ... the pid check is the usual way of checking if a daemon is
active.

I think a bit work is required to work out why xenstored.pid stays
across reboot -- it is not supposed to work like that on a FHS compliant
system.

And how do other daemons work on your test host, presumably they will
see stale pid files as well.  Are there any other pid files under
/var/run? If so, do the corresponding daemon run properly?

Wei.

> J

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* Re: Test Xen 4.8 RC4 not stable 27.10.16
  2016-10-28 15:30           ` Wei Liu
@ 2016-10-28 16:04             ` Boris Ostrovsky
  2016-10-28 16:08               ` Wei Liu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Boris Ostrovsky @ 2016-10-28 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wei Liu, Juergen Schinker; +Cc: xen-devel

On 10/28/2016 11:30 AM, Wei Liu wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 04:01:54PM +0100, Juergen Schinker wrote:
>>
>> ----- On 28 Oct, 2016, at 13:07, Boris Ostrovsky boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com wrote:
>>
>>> I believe at least on some distros /var/run should be soft-linked to
>>> /run, otherwise whoever cleans up those directories (the command name
>>> escapes me right now) will only remove files from /run and leave
>>> /var/run (and therefore /var/run/xen/xenstored.pid) untouched.
>>>
>>> And because xencommons checks for existence of this this file before
>>> starting xenstored the latter never starts.
>>>
>>> -boris
>> root@xen:~# ls -la /var/run/xen/xenstored.pid 
>> -rw-r----- 1 root root 6 Oct 28 15:15 /var/run/xen/xenstored.pid
>>
>>   
>>    33 ?        00:00:00 xenwatch
>>    34 ?        00:00:00 xenbus
>>    45 ?        00:00:00 xenbus_frontend
>>   785 ?        00:00:00 xen_pciback_wor
>>  1137 ?        00:00:00 xenwatchdogd
>>  1169 ?        00:00:00 xen-init-dom0
>>  1175 ?        00:00:00 xenconsoled
>>
>> Thats exactly what I'm sayin , maybe we need a more intelligent check to see if xenstored is running
>>
>> not just a simple pid check
>>
> But ... the pid check is the usual way of checking if a daemon is
> active.
>
> I think a bit work is required to work out why xenstored.pid stays
> across reboot -- it is not supposed to work like that on a FHS compliant
> system.

I remember now: it's systemd-tmpfiles that creates and cleans up those
files. I think the way it works is it checks
/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/var.conf for the rules. On my fedora24:

L /var/run - - - - ../run

Which IIUIC means that /var/run should be linked to ../run (i.e. /run)
during boot. Or something along these lines. Perhaps because when we
shut down xenstored.pid is still there and so the link cannot be made.


-boris

>
> And how do other daemons work on your test host, presumably they will
> see stale pid files as well.  Are there any other pid files under
> /var/run? If so, do the corresponding daemon run properly?
>
> Wei.
>
>> J


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* Re: Test Xen 4.8 RC4 not stable 27.10.16
  2016-10-28 16:04             ` Boris Ostrovsky
@ 2016-10-28 16:08               ` Wei Liu
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Wei Liu @ 2016-10-28 16:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Boris Ostrovsky; +Cc: Juergen Schinker, Wei Liu, xen-devel

On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 12:04:29PM -0400, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
> On 10/28/2016 11:30 AM, Wei Liu wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 04:01:54PM +0100, Juergen Schinker wrote:
> >>
> >> ----- On 28 Oct, 2016, at 13:07, Boris Ostrovsky boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> I believe at least on some distros /var/run should be soft-linked to
> >>> /run, otherwise whoever cleans up those directories (the command name
> >>> escapes me right now) will only remove files from /run and leave
> >>> /var/run (and therefore /var/run/xen/xenstored.pid) untouched.
> >>>
> >>> And because xencommons checks for existence of this this file before
> >>> starting xenstored the latter never starts.
> >>>
> >>> -boris
> >> root@xen:~# ls -la /var/run/xen/xenstored.pid 
> >> -rw-r----- 1 root root 6 Oct 28 15:15 /var/run/xen/xenstored.pid
> >>
> >>   
> >>    33 ?        00:00:00 xenwatch
> >>    34 ?        00:00:00 xenbus
> >>    45 ?        00:00:00 xenbus_frontend
> >>   785 ?        00:00:00 xen_pciback_wor
> >>  1137 ?        00:00:00 xenwatchdogd
> >>  1169 ?        00:00:00 xen-init-dom0
> >>  1175 ?        00:00:00 xenconsoled

And this ^ 

xenconsoled requires xenstored.service, so if xenstored is not available
xenconsoled wouldn't be started, I think.

xen-init-dom0 as well.

> >>
> >> Thats exactly what I'm sayin , maybe we need a more intelligent check to see if xenstored is running
> >>
> >> not just a simple pid check
> >>
> > But ... the pid check is the usual way of checking if a daemon is
> > active.
> >
> > I think a bit work is required to work out why xenstored.pid stays
> > across reboot -- it is not supposed to work like that on a FHS compliant
> > system.
> 
> I remember now: it's systemd-tmpfiles that creates and cleans up those
> files. I think the way it works is it checks
> /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/var.conf for the rules. On my fedora24:
> 
> L /var/run - - - - ../run
> 
> Which IIUIC means that /var/run should be linked to ../run (i.e. /run)
> during boot. Or something along these lines. Perhaps because when we
> shut down xenstored.pid is still there and so the link cannot be made.

It's the same on my Debian Jessie box, but it works just fine, FWIW.

Wei.

> 
> 
> -boris
> 
> >
> > And how do other daemons work on your test host, presumably they will
> > see stale pid files as well.  Are there any other pid files under
> > /var/run? If so, do the corresponding daemon run properly?
> >
> > Wei.
> >
> >> J
> 
> 

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