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From: Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>
To: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>
Cc: Anthony Perard <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	Olaf Hering <olaf@aepfle.de>, Wei Liu <Wei.Liu2@citrix.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: 4.7 qemu regression: HVM guests fail to boot from xvda
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 12:45:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22353.28127.934683.210436@mariner.uk.xensource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <575169B7.9060603@citrix.com>

George Dunlap writes ("Re: [Xen-devel] 4.7 qemu regression: HVM guests fail to boot from xvda"):
> On 03/06/16 12:20, Olaf Hering wrote:
> > I think the regression is: 'vdev=xvda' does not result in a disk
> > connected to the emulated controller. Should we change the way hdtype=
> > is handled internally? If hdtype= is not given it remains unset and with
> > vdev=xvd* no disk-on-emulated-controller gets added. If hdtype= is set
> > then vdev=xvd* will result in an disk-on-emulated-controller, which
> > fixes the regression. If vdev=hd* and hdtype= was not set, hdtype will
> > be silently set to ide.
> 
> I'd be OK with this.  But is the "hdtype unset" also available at the
> libxl level?

There are two problems with this `hdtype' approach.

Firstly, it is global.  That is, it applies to all disks of the
particular guest.  But then maybe we don't care about that because
this anomalous major-number-stealing behaviour is probably per-guest
rather than per-disk.

Secondly, the proposal above involves changing both the semantics of
existing `hdtype' parameter values, and the default hdtype value.  The
resulting situation would be that even specifying vdev=hda wouldn't
get you an emulated device, by default, unless you specified `hdtype'
too.  I don't think that is right.

The possibilities I see are:

(1) New boolean per-guest parameter for this behaviour, meaning
   `provide emulated devices for all xvd* as if they were hd*'.

(2) New `hdtype=ideforpv' which has the same effect as `hdtype=ide'
   plus the semantics in (1) above.  (I'm open to better naming
   suggestions.)

(3) New disk property parameter `hvm-emulate' in the Deprecated
    section of xl-disk-configuration.txt.

Open questions:

Do we also need `... as if they were sd*' or `provide ide emulated
devices where vdev=sd* is specified?'

If we have `hdtype=ideinclpv' do we also need `hdtype=ahciinclpv' ?

What should happen if these options are enabled for PV guests - should
they be silently ignored, or should they be rejected ?

Ian.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-03 11:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-30 20:42 4.7 qemu regression: HVM guests fail to boot from xvda Olaf Hering
2016-05-31 11:02 ` George Dunlap
2016-05-31 11:16   ` Olaf Hering
2016-05-31 11:32     ` George Dunlap
2016-05-31 11:41       ` Olaf Hering
2016-05-31 12:00         ` George Dunlap
2016-05-31 12:04           ` Olaf Hering
2016-06-01 13:17             ` Olaf Hering
2016-06-01 21:40               ` Olaf Hering
2016-06-02 11:49                 ` Wei Liu
2016-06-02 12:06                   ` Olaf Hering
2016-05-31 12:15           ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-01  9:48           ` Wei Liu
2016-06-01 13:34             ` Olaf Hering
2016-06-01 14:11               ` Wei Liu
2016-06-01 14:32                 ` Olaf Hering
2016-06-01 15:36           ` Ian Jackson
2016-06-03 10:13             ` George Dunlap
2016-06-03 11:20               ` Olaf Hering
2016-06-03 11:27                 ` George Dunlap
2016-06-03 11:45                   ` Ian Jackson [this message]
2016-06-06 10:39                     ` George Dunlap
2016-06-06 10:52                       ` Ian Jackson
2016-06-06 11:43                         ` George Dunlap
2016-06-06 12:49                     ` George Dunlap
2016-06-07 14:08                     ` George Dunlap
2016-06-07 14:27                       ` Olaf Hering
2016-06-08 10:17                       ` Ian Jackson
2016-06-07 19:06                     ` Olaf Hering
2016-06-08 10:18                       ` Ian Jackson
2016-06-08 10:23                         ` George Dunlap
2016-06-08 10:30                           ` Ian Jackson
2016-06-08 10:49                             ` George Dunlap
2016-06-08 11:13                               ` Olaf Hering
2016-06-08 15:56                                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-06-03 11:50                   ` Olaf Hering
2016-05-31 12:10       ` Jan Beulich
2016-05-31 13:41         ` George Dunlap
2016-05-31 14:10           ` Jan Beulich
2016-05-31 16:15     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-06-08 11:38 ` Wei Liu
2016-06-08 12:04   ` Olaf Hering
2016-06-08 12:09     ` Wei Liu

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