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From: Razvan Cojocaru <rcojocaru@bitdefender.com>
To: Tamas K Lengyel <tamas@tklengyel.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
Cc: Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"wei.liu2@citrix.com" <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>, Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] vm_event: Allow subscribing to write events for specific MSR-s
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 12:37:55 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <570F64F3.7030604@bitdefender.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABfawh=XJLeysnZnq5WuF28Fn90QU5bZffo7dxLYdvrNnvtMfA@mail.gmail.com>

On 04/13/2016 06:05 PM, Tamas K Lengyel wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Andrew Cooper
> <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com <mailto:andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>> wrote:
> 
>     On 13/04/16 15:56, Razvan Cojocaru wrote:
>     > On 04/13/2016 05:52 PM, Tamas K Lengyel wrote:
>     >>     >> diff --git a/xen/include/public/domctl.h
>     >>     b/xen/include/public/domctl.h
>     >>     >> index 2457698..875c09a 100644
>     >>     >> --- a/xen/include/public/domctl.h
>     >>     >> +++ b/xen/include/public/domctl.h
>     >>     >> @@ -1107,8 +1107,7 @@ struct xen_domctl_monitor_op {
>     >>     >>          } mov_to_cr;
>     >>     >>
>     >>     >>          struct {
>     >>     >> -            /* Enable the capture of an extended set of
>     MSRs */
>     >>     >> -            uint8_t extended_capture;
>     >>     >> +            uint32_t msr;
>     >>     >
>     >>     > Whoa there. Isn't it expanding the structure? Will this be
>     backwards
>     >>     > compatible? What if somebody is using an older version of
>     xen-access
>     >>     > against this hypervisor? Will they work?
>     >>     >
>     >>     > Perhaps this should have a new struct / sub-ops? And the old
>     >>     > 'mov_to_msr' will just re-use this new fangled code?
>     >>
>     >>     In addition to Andrew's comments, I think simply changing
>     >>     VM_EVENT_INTERFACE_VERSION should be enough for
>     xen-access-like clients
>     >>     to figure out the incompatibility.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> This is an independent system from VM_EVENT, so IMHO the two
>     shouldn't
>     >> be mixed. The union size right now is 24-bits so if a uint16_t is
>     enough
>     >> for the bitmask that should be used instead. That way we don't end up
>     >> growing the struct size.
>     > Right. Well, MSR-s seem to be passed around as 32-bit unsigned
>     integers
>     > everywhere in the Xen source code, so unless that also needs
>     correcting
>     > then unfortunately it'll have to grow.
> 
>     MSR indices are always 32bits wide, as they live specifically in %ecx
>     when encoded for instructions.
> 
>     Only 2K MSRs are currently specified in hardware, with some extra ones
>     in the hypervisor range, but this doesn't mean that list won't grow in
>     the future.
> 
> 
> Yea, well then we need to introduce a new struct with a new subop to
> pass the bitmask. I guess its a lesson in ABI design to leave some
> wiggle room for future-proofing it (my bad). So I guess we can introduce
> XEN_DOMCTL_MONITOR_OP_ENABLE_V2 and struct xen_domctl_monitor_op_v2
> where say expand the union to uint64_t just in case?

I can do that, but it would seem that this is somewhat at odds with
Andrew Cooper's perspective - he has stated that it's within the rules
and the domctl can be changed without there being the need for
XEN_DOMCTL_MONITOR_OP_ENABLE_V2. So this should be clarified, please,
otherwise I'm incurring the risk of changing the code only to have to
revert it later.


Thanks,
Razvan

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Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-13  5:11 [PATCH V2] vm_event: Allow subscribing to write events for specific MSR-s Razvan Cojocaru
2016-04-13  9:47 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-13 10:07   ` Andrew Cooper
2016-04-13 11:57   ` Razvan Cojocaru
2016-04-13 14:52     ` Tamas K Lengyel
2016-04-13 14:56       ` Razvan Cojocaru
2016-04-13 15:01         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-04-13 15:05           ` Tamas K Lengyel
2016-04-14  9:37             ` Razvan Cojocaru [this message]
2016-04-14 15:20               ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-14 15:33                 ` Tamas K Lengyel
2016-04-14 15:37                   ` Razvan Cojocaru
2016-04-13 14:50 ` Tamas K Lengyel
2016-04-13 14:52   ` Razvan Cojocaru

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