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From: "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com>
To: Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>
Cc: Juergen Gross <JGross@suse.com>,
	stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com, andrew.cooper3@citrix.com,
	cardoe@cardoe.com, pgnet.dev@gmail.com, ning.sun@intel.com,
	david.vrabel@citrix.com, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	qiaowei.ren@intel.com, richard.l.maliszewski@intel.com,
	gang.wei@intel.com, fu.wei@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 10/16] efi: create efi_enabled()
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 09:41:42 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <574F1E5602000078000F0855@prv-mh.provo.novell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160601152303.GC5490@olila.local.net-space.pl>

>>> On 01.06.16 at 17:23, <daniel.kiper@oracle.com> wrote:
> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 02:22:39AM -0600, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> >>> On 25.05.16 at 19:15, <daniel.kiper@oracle.com> wrote:
>> > On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 01:20:23AM -0600, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> >> >>> On 15.04.16 at 14:33, <daniel.kiper@oracle.com> wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>> >> > --- a/xen/include/xen/efi.h
>> >> > +++ b/xen/include/xen/efi.h
>> >> > @@ -2,15 +2,17 @@
>> >> >  #define __XEN_EFI_H__
>> >> >
>> >> >  #ifndef __ASSEMBLY__
>> >> > +#include <xen/bitops.h>
>> >> >  #include <xen/types.h>
>> >> >  #endif
>> >> >
>> >> > -extern const bool_t efi_enabled;
>> >> > -
>> >> >  #define EFI_INVALID_TABLE_ADDR (~0UL)
>> >> >
>> >> > +#define EFI_PLATFORM	0
>> >>
>> >> So what does "platform" mean? Did you consider using the more fine
>> >
>> > It means "EFI platform". It differentiates from "legacy BIOS platform".
>>
>> Well, that's what was clear from the beginning. The question however
>> was (taken together with the second one) what it means functionality
>> wise. The later addition makes clear it doesn't mean "loaded directly
> 
> This means that we run on EFI platform and we can use its features,
> e.g. runtime services, get info from it about ACPI, SMBIOS, etc.
> 
>> from EFI". But looking at the various flags Linux has here, what
> 
> Yep.
> 
>> functionality does it imply? Does it e.g. mean runtime services are to
>> be used? If so, the flag would need to be cleared when their use if
> 
> As above: not only.

I.e. we're back at me asking you to make this at least a little more
fine grained.

>> being suppressed.
> 
> If we need that (e.g. for ARM) then we should create e.g. EFI_RS.

Why only then? We already can suppress the use of runtime services.

>> >> grained set of flags Linux uses nowadays? That would also eliminate
>> >
>> > I wish to use just basic idea. However, I am not going to copy all
>> > stuff from Linux. We do not need that.
>>
>> We don't need all of it, sure. But some more fine grained
>> identification of what functionality is available / to be used
>> would surely benefit us as a whole and your patch series in
>> particular.
> 
> As above.

Well, above you don't really reason on why this coarse granularity
is good enough. Hence my response can only be: As above.

Jan


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Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-15 12:33 [PATCH v3 00/16] x86: multiboot2 protocol support Daniel Kiper
2016-04-15 12:33 ` [PATCH v3 01/16] x86/boot: do not create unwind tables Daniel Kiper
2016-04-15 15:45   ` Andrew Cooper
2016-04-15 12:33 ` [PATCH v3 02/16] x86: zero BSS using stosl instead of stosb Daniel Kiper
2016-04-15 13:57   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-15 15:48   ` Andrew Cooper
2016-04-15 12:33 ` [PATCH v3 03/16] x86/boot: call reloc() using cdecl calling convention Daniel Kiper
2016-04-15 15:56   ` Andrew Cooper
2016-06-17  8:41     ` Daniel Kiper
2016-06-17  9:30       ` Jan Beulich
2016-05-24  8:42   ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-15 12:33 ` [PATCH v3 04/16] x86/boot/reloc: create generic alloc and copy functions Daniel Kiper
2016-04-15 12:33 ` [PATCH v3 05/16] x86/boot: use %ecx instead of %eax Daniel Kiper
2016-04-15 12:33 ` [PATCH v3 06/16] x86/boot/reloc: Rename some variables and rearrange code a bit Daniel Kiper
2016-04-15 12:33 ` [PATCH v3 07/16] x86/boot: create *.lnk files with linker script Daniel Kiper
2016-04-15 14:04   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-05-24  9:05   ` Jan Beulich
2016-05-24 12:28     ` Daniel Kiper
2016-05-24 12:52       ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-17  9:06         ` Daniel Kiper
2016-06-17 10:04           ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-17 10:34             ` Daniel Kiper
2016-04-15 12:33 ` [PATCH v3 08/16] x86: add multiboot2 protocol support Daniel Kiper
2016-05-24 15:46   ` Jan Beulich
2016-05-25 16:34     ` Daniel Kiper
2016-05-26 10:28       ` Andrew Cooper
2016-05-27  8:08         ` Jan Beulich
2016-05-27  8:13           ` Andrew Cooper
2016-05-27  8:24             ` Jan Beulich
2016-05-27  8:11       ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-15 12:33 ` [PATCH v3 09/16] efi: explicitly define efi struct in xen/arch/x86/efi/stub.c Daniel Kiper
2016-05-25  7:03   ` Jan Beulich
2016-05-25 16:45     ` Daniel Kiper
2016-05-27  8:16       ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-01 15:07         ` Daniel Kiper
2016-07-05 18:33         ` Daniel Kiper
2016-07-06  6:55           ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-06 10:27             ` Daniel Kiper
2016-07-06 12:00               ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-06 12:55                 ` Daniel Kiper
2016-04-15 12:33 ` [PATCH v3 10/16] efi: create efi_enabled() Daniel Kiper
2016-05-25  7:20   ` Jan Beulich
2016-05-25 17:15     ` Daniel Kiper
2016-05-26 10:31       ` Andrew Cooper
2016-05-27  8:22       ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-01 15:23         ` Daniel Kiper
2016-06-01 15:41           ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2016-06-01 19:28             ` Daniel Kiper
2016-06-02  8:06               ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-15 12:33 ` [PATCH v3 11/16] efi: build xen.gz with EFI code Daniel Kiper
2016-05-25  7:53   ` Jan Beulich
2016-05-25 19:07     ` Daniel Kiper
2016-05-27  8:31       ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-01 15:48         ` Daniel Kiper
2016-06-01 15:58           ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-01 19:39             ` Daniel Kiper
2016-04-15 12:33 ` [PATCH v3 12/16 - RFC] x86/efi: create new early memory allocator Daniel Kiper
2016-05-25  8:39   ` Jan Beulich
2016-05-25 19:48     ` Daniel Kiper
2016-05-27  8:37       ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-01 15:58         ` Daniel Kiper
2016-06-01 16:02           ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-01 19:53             ` Daniel Kiper
2016-06-02  8:11               ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-02 10:43                 ` Daniel Kiper
2016-06-02 11:10                   ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-01 16:01         ` Daniel Kiper
2016-07-05 18:26   ` Daniel Kiper
2016-07-06  7:22     ` Jan Beulich
2016-07-06 11:15       ` Daniel Kiper
2016-04-15 12:33 ` [PATCH v3 13/16 - RFC] x86: add multiboot2 protocol support for EFI platforms Daniel Kiper
2016-05-25  9:32   ` Jan Beulich
2016-05-25 10:29     ` Jan Beulich
2016-05-25 21:02     ` Daniel Kiper
2016-05-27  9:02       ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-01 19:03         ` Daniel Kiper
2016-06-02  8:34           ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-02 16:12             ` Daniel Kiper
2016-06-03  9:26               ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-03 17:06                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-15 12:33 ` [PATCH v3 14/16] x86/boot: implement early command line parser in C Daniel Kiper
2016-05-25 10:33   ` Jan Beulich
2016-05-25 21:36     ` Daniel Kiper
2016-05-27  9:33       ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-02  8:15         ` Daniel Kiper
2016-06-02  8:39           ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-15 12:33 ` [PATCH v3 15/16 - RFC] x86: make Xen early boot code relocatable Daniel Kiper
2016-05-25 10:48   ` Jan Beulich
2016-04-15 12:33 ` [PATCH v3 16/16] x86: add multiboot2 protocol support for relocatable images Daniel Kiper
2016-05-25 11:03   ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-01 13:35     ` Daniel Kiper
2016-06-01 14:44       ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-01 19:16         ` Daniel Kiper
2016-06-02  8:41           ` Jan Beulich

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