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From: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>, WeiLiu <wl@xen.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>, Dario Faggioli <dfaggioli@suse.com>,
	Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	Roger Pau Monne <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 54/60] xen/sched: add minimalistic idle scheduler for free cpus
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 13:58:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5ea454f1-79f7-2974-0736-3262870446ab@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5CED1FDC0200007800233141@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>

On 28/05/2019 13:47, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 28.05.19 at 12:33, <jgross@suse.com> wrote:
>> Instead of having a full blown scheduler running for the free cpus
>> add a very minimalistic scheduler for that purpose only ever scheduling
>> the related idle vcpu. This has the big advantage of not needing any
>> per-cpu, per-domain or per-scheduling unit data for free cpus and in
>> turn simplifying moving cpus to and from cpupools a lot.
> 
> And the null scheduler is not minimalistic enough?

The main disadvantage of the null scheduler are the need for private
data (which has to be allocated/freed on scheduler switch), its not
yet perfect stability, and its "complexity" (e.g. 900 lines vs. 50).

> 
>> --- a/xen/arch/arm/smpboot.c
>> +++ b/xen/arch/arm/smpboot.c
>> @@ -350,8 +350,6 @@ void start_secondary(unsigned long boot_phys_offset,
>>  
>>      setup_cpu_sibling_map(cpuid);
>>  
>> -    scheduler_percpu_init(cpuid);
>> -
>>      /* Run local notifiers */
>>      notify_cpu_starting(cpuid);
>>      /*
>> --- a/xen/arch/x86/smpboot.c
>> +++ b/xen/arch/x86/smpboot.c
>> @@ -382,8 +382,6 @@ void start_secondary(void *unused)
>>  
>>      set_cpu_sibling_map(cpu);
>>  
>> -    scheduler_percpu_init(cpu);
>> -
>>      init_percpu_time();
>>  
>>      setup_secondary_APIC_clock();
> 
> Seeing you revert here what an earlier patch in the series has added,
> I don't suppose re-ordering could avoid this code churn?

This would require another major shuffling of patches. I'd like to avoid
that.


Juergen

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From: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>, WeiLiu <wl@xen.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>, Dario Faggioli <dfaggioli@suse.com>,
	Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	Roger Pau Monne <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH 54/60] xen/sched: add minimalistic idle scheduler for free cpus
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 13:58:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5ea454f1-79f7-2974-0736-3262870446ab@suse.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20190528115845.8Z4oEclhKhzawLLmqGwy_j4HcoH1IDeOpdwzuAv4ZZI@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5CED1FDC0200007800233141@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>

On 28/05/2019 13:47, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 28.05.19 at 12:33, <jgross@suse.com> wrote:
>> Instead of having a full blown scheduler running for the free cpus
>> add a very minimalistic scheduler for that purpose only ever scheduling
>> the related idle vcpu. This has the big advantage of not needing any
>> per-cpu, per-domain or per-scheduling unit data for free cpus and in
>> turn simplifying moving cpus to and from cpupools a lot.
> 
> And the null scheduler is not minimalistic enough?

The main disadvantage of the null scheduler are the need for private
data (which has to be allocated/freed on scheduler switch), its not
yet perfect stability, and its "complexity" (e.g. 900 lines vs. 50).

> 
>> --- a/xen/arch/arm/smpboot.c
>> +++ b/xen/arch/arm/smpboot.c
>> @@ -350,8 +350,6 @@ void start_secondary(unsigned long boot_phys_offset,
>>  
>>      setup_cpu_sibling_map(cpuid);
>>  
>> -    scheduler_percpu_init(cpuid);
>> -
>>      /* Run local notifiers */
>>      notify_cpu_starting(cpuid);
>>      /*
>> --- a/xen/arch/x86/smpboot.c
>> +++ b/xen/arch/x86/smpboot.c
>> @@ -382,8 +382,6 @@ void start_secondary(void *unused)
>>  
>>      set_cpu_sibling_map(cpu);
>>  
>> -    scheduler_percpu_init(cpu);
>> -
>>      init_percpu_time();
>>  
>>      setup_secondary_APIC_clock();
> 
> Seeing you revert here what an earlier patch in the series has added,
> I don't suppose re-ordering could avoid this code churn?

This would require another major shuffling of patches. I'd like to avoid
that.


Juergen

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2019-05-28 10:32 [PATCH 00/60] xen: add core scheduling support Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 01/60] xen/sched: only allow schedulers with all mandatory functions available Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-06-11 16:03   ` Dario Faggioli
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 02/60] xen/sched: add inline wrappers for calling per-scheduler functions Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-06-11 16:21   ` Dario Faggioli
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 03/60] xen/sched: let sched_switch_sched() return new lock address Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-06-11 16:55   ` Dario Faggioli
2019-06-12  7:40     ` Jan Beulich
2019-06-12  8:06       ` Juergen Gross
2019-06-12  9:44         ` Dario Faggioli
2019-06-12  8:05   ` Andrew Cooper
2019-06-12  8:19     ` Juergen Gross
2019-06-12  9:32       ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]       ` <5D00C6960200007800237622@suse.com>
2019-06-12  9:56         ` Dario Faggioli
2019-06-12 10:14           ` Jan Beulich
2019-06-12 11:27             ` Andrew Cooper
2019-06-12 13:32               ` Dario Faggioli
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 04/60] xen/sched: use new sched_unit instead of vcpu in scheduler interfaces Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-07-18 17:44   ` Dario Faggioli
2019-07-19  4:49     ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-19 17:01       ` Dario Faggioli
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 05/60] xen/sched: alloc struct sched_unit for each vcpu Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-07-18 17:57   ` Dario Faggioli
2019-07-19  4:56     ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-19 17:04       ` Dario Faggioli
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 06/60] xen/sched: move per-vcpu scheduler private data pointer to sched_unit Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-07-18 22:52   ` Dario Faggioli
2019-07-19  5:03     ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-19 17:10       ` Dario Faggioli
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 07/60] xen/sched: build a linked list of struct sched_unit Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-07-19  0:01   ` Dario Faggioli
2019-07-19  5:07     ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-19 17:16       ` Dario Faggioli
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 08/60] xen/sched: introduce struct sched_resource Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-07-19 17:43   ` Dario Faggioli
2019-07-19 17:49   ` Dario Faggioli
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 09/60] xen/sched: let pick_cpu return a scheduler resource Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-07-19 18:06   ` Dario Faggioli
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 10/60] xen/sched: switch schedule_data.curr to point at sched_unit Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-07-29 22:08   ` Dario Faggioli
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 11/60] xen/sched: move per cpu scheduler private data into struct sched_resource Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 11:32   ` Jan Beulich
2019-05-28 11:32     ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2019-07-29 22:22   ` Dario Faggioli
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 12/60] xen/sched: switch vcpu_schedule_lock to unit_schedule_lock Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 13/60] xen/sched: move some per-vcpu items to struct sched_unit Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-06-13  7:18   ` Andrii Anisov
2019-06-13  7:29     ` Juergen Gross
2019-06-13  7:34       ` Andrii Anisov
2019-06-13  8:39         ` Juergen Gross
2019-06-13  8:49           ` Andrii Anisov
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 14/60] xen/sched: add scheduler helpers hiding vcpu Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 15/60] xen/sched: add domain pointer to struct sched_unit Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 16/60] xen/sched: add id " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 17/60] xen/sched: rename scheduler related perf counters Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 18/60] xen/sched: switch struct task_slice from vcpu to sched_unit Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 19/60] xen/sched: add is_running indicator to struct sched_unit Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 20/60] xen/sched: make null scheduler vcpu agnostic Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 21/60] xen/sched: make rt " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 22/60] xen/sched: make credit " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 23/60] xen/sched: make credit2 " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 24/60] xen/sched: make arinc653 " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 25/60] xen: add sched_unit_pause_nosync() and sched_unit_unpause() Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 26/60] xen: let vcpu_create() select processor Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 27/60] xen/sched: use sched_resource cpu instead smp_processor_id in schedulers Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 28/60] xen/sched: switch schedule() from vcpus to sched_units Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 29/60] xen/sched: switch sched_move_irqs() to take sched_unit as parameter Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 30/60] xen: switch from for_each_vcpu() to for_each_sched_unit() Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 31/60] xen/sched: add runstate counters to struct sched_unit Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 32/60] xen/sched: rework and rename vcpu_force_reschedule() Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 33/60] xen/sched: Change vcpu_migrate_*() to operate on schedule unit Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 34/60] xen/sched: move struct task_slice into struct sched_unit Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 35/60] xen/sched: add code to sync scheduling of all vcpus of a sched unit Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 36/60] xen/sched: introduce unit_runnable_state() Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 37/60] xen/sched: add support for multiple vcpus per sched unit where missing Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 38/60] x86: make loading of GDT at context switch more modular Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-07-02 15:38   ` Andrew Cooper
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 39/60] x86: optimize loading of GDT at context switch Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-07-02 16:09   ` Andrew Cooper
2019-07-03  6:30     ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-03 12:21       ` Andrew Cooper
2019-07-05  7:30         ` Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 40/60] xen/sched: modify cpupool_domain_cpumask() to be an unit mask Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 41/60] xen/sched: support allocating multiple vcpus into one sched unit Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 42/60] xen/sched: add a scheduler_percpu_init() function Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 43/60] xen/sched: add a percpu resource index Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 44/60] xen/sched: add fall back to idle vcpu when scheduling unit Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 45/60] xen/sched: make vcpu_wake() and vcpu_sleep() core scheduling aware Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [PATCH 46/60] xen/sched: carve out freeing sched_unit memory into dedicated function Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33 ` [PATCH 47/60] xen/sched: move per-cpu variable scheduler to struct sched_resource Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33 ` [PATCH 48/60] xen/sched: move per-cpu variable cpupool " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33 ` [PATCH 49/60] xen/sched: reject switching smt on/off with core scheduling active Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 11:44   ` Jan Beulich
2019-05-28 11:44     ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2019-05-28 11:52     ` Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 11:52       ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-06-12  9:36       ` Dario Faggioli
2019-05-28 10:33 ` [PATCH 50/60] xen/sched: prepare per-cpupool scheduling granularity Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33 ` [PATCH 51/60] xen/sched: use one schedule lock for all free cpus Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33 ` [PATCH 52/60] xen/sched: populate cpupool0 only after all cpus are up Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33 ` [PATCH 53/60] xen/sched: remove cpu from pool0 before removing it Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33 ` [PATCH 54/60] xen/sched: add minimalistic idle scheduler for free cpus Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 11:47   ` Jan Beulich
2019-05-28 11:47     ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2019-05-28 11:58     ` Juergen Gross [this message]
2019-05-28 11:58       ` Juergen Gross
2019-05-31 14:15       ` Dario Faggioli
2019-05-31 14:15         ` [Xen-devel] " Dario Faggioli
2019-05-31 15:52   ` Dario Faggioli
2019-05-31 15:52     ` [Xen-devel] " Dario Faggioli
2019-05-31 16:44     ` Juergen Gross
2019-05-31 16:44       ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33 ` [PATCH 55/60] xen/sched: split schedule_cpu_switch() Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33 ` [PATCH 56/60] xen/sched: protect scheduling resource via rcu Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33 ` [PATCH 57/60] xen/sched: support multiple cpus per scheduling resource Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33 ` [PATCH 58/60] xen/sched: support differing granularity in schedule_cpu_[add/rm]() Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33 ` [PATCH 59/60] xen/sched: support core scheduling for moving cpus to/from cpupools Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33 ` [PATCH 60/60] xen/sched: add scheduling granularity enum Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:33   ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 11:51   ` Jan Beulich
2019-05-28 11:51     ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2019-05-28 12:02     ` Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 12:02       ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-07-19 18:31   ` Dario Faggioli
2019-07-05 13:17 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH 00/60] xen: add core scheduling support Sergey Dyasli
2019-07-05 13:22   ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-05 13:56   ` Dario Faggioli
2019-07-15 14:08     ` Sergey Dyasli
2019-07-18 14:48       ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-18 15:14         ` Sergey Dyasli
2019-07-18 16:04           ` Dario Faggioli
2019-07-19  5:41           ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-19 11:24             ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-19 13:57           ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-22 14:22             ` Sergey Dyasli
2019-07-24  9:13               ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-24 14:54                 ` Sergey Dyasli
2019-07-24 15:11                   ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-16 15:45   ` Sergey Dyasli
2019-07-19 13:35     ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-25 16:01   ` Sergey Dyasli
2019-07-11 13:40 ` Dario Faggioli
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