Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v2 1/6] Import v1.4 of Contributor Covenant CoC

[Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@citrix.com>]

On 07/10/2019, 12:06, "George Dunlap" <george.dunlap@citrix.com> wrote:

    On 9/26/19 8:39 PM, Lars Kurth wrote:
    > From: Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@citrix.com>
    > 
    > Signed-off-by: Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@citrix.com>
    > ---
    > Cc: minios-devel@lists.xenproject.org
    > Cc: xen-api@lists.xenproject.org
    > Cc: win-pv-devel@lists.xenproject.org
    > Cc: mirageos-devel@lists.xenproject.org
    > Cc: committers@xenproject.org
    > ---
    >  code-of-conduct.md | 76 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    >  1 file changed, 76 insertions(+)
    >  create mode 100644 code-of-conduct.md
    > 
    > diff --git a/code-of-conduct.md b/code-of-conduct.md
    > new file mode 100644
    > index 0000000..81b217c
    > --- /dev/null
    > +++ b/code-of-conduct.md
    > @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@
    > +# Contributor Covenant Code of Conduct
    > +
    > +## Our Pledge
    > +
    > +In the interest of fostering an open and welcoming environment, we as
    > +contributors and maintainers pledge to make participation in our project and
    > +our community a harassment-free experience for everyone, regardless of age, body
    > +size, disability, ethnicity, sex characteristics, gender identity and expression,
    > +level of experience, education, socio-economic status, nationality, personal
    > +appearance, race, religion, or sexual identity and orientation.
    
    This is relatively minor, but I don't feel quite comfortable with the
    wording.  "pledge to make it a harassment-free experience" to me implies
    that we pledge that *nobody will ever experience harassment*.  I don't
    think that's something we can deliver, any more than a government can
    promise there will be zero crime.  I think we could promise to
    *maintain* a harassment-free experience, which implies things to a
    restoring harassment-free state after it's been broken.
    
    Everything else looks good.
    
Could you come up with an alternative concrete text proposal? 

My take-away is that you say we should use
* "pledge to strive to make ..." or 
* "pledge to try their best to make ..." or
* "strive to make ..." 
in which case we may also need to change "The Pledge".

On the other hand: the rest of the document does clearly lay out that
what we promise is to deal with incidents in an effective manner.
And by the mere inclusion of mechanism to do this, it is actually clear
that we can't guarantee that *nobody will ever experience harassment*.

I guess it comes down to subtleties of how pledge, promise, strive, ...
differ

Regards
Lars
 

    

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