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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>, Roger Pau Monne <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Cc: Wei Liu <wl@xen.org>, Ian Jackson <iwj@xenproject.org>,
	<xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] x86/cpuid: support LFENCE always serializing CPUID bit
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 13:49:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <84012b3b-9ed6-7724-8738-986570be6a44@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <63738788-c7ed-13f7-acaa-c1ad102442a3@suse.com>

On 14/04/2021 13:45, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 14.04.2021 14:33, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> On 14/04/2021 12:04, Roger Pau Monne wrote:
>>> --- a/tools/misc/xen-cpuid.c
>>> +++ b/tools/misc/xen-cpuid.c
>>> @@ -178,6 +178,11 @@ static const char *const str_7a1[32] =
>>>      [ 4] = "avx-vnni",      [ 5] = "avx512-bf16",
>>>  };
>>>  
>>> +static const char *const str_e21a[32] =
>>> +{
>>> +    [ 2] = "lfence-always-serializing",
>> This is a bit of a mouthful.  One problem is the fact that "serialising"
>> is an ambiguous term, because neither Intel nor AMD formally specify
>> what it means in the architecture.
>>
>> There is a description of what "architecturally serialising" does, which
>> does occasionally move over time, and the name of this CPUID bit in the
>> PPR confusing at best, because it very much isn't "architecturally
>> serialising", and the term "dispatch serialising" isn't actually defined
>> anywhere.
>>
>> Intel have now started referring to LFENCE as a "speculative execution
>> barrier", but this still doesn't have a precise definition.
>>
>> I'm afraid I don't have a useful suggestion for something short and
>> concise, which also conveys the precise meaning.
> How about "lfence+" or some such?

Hmm yes - for xen-cpuid, that's probably fine, and for churn reasons, we
can keep X86_FEATURE_LFENCE_DISPATCH which was the best name I could
come up with at the time.

~Andrew


  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-14 12:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-14 11:04 [PATCH 0/2] x86/amd: LFENCE always serializing CPUID bit Roger Pau Monne
2021-04-14 11:04 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86/amd: split LFENCE dispatch serializing setup logic into helper Roger Pau Monne
2021-04-14 11:11   ` Andrew Cooper
2021-04-14 11:04 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86/cpuid: support LFENCE always serializing CPUID bit Roger Pau Monne
2021-04-14 12:33   ` Andrew Cooper
2021-04-14 12:45     ` Jan Beulich
2021-04-14 12:49       ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2021-04-14 12:57   ` Jan Beulich
2021-04-14 13:05     ` Andrew Cooper
2021-04-14 13:24       ` Jan Beulich
2021-04-14 13:41         ` Andrew Cooper
2021-04-14 13:25       ` Andrew Cooper
2021-04-14 13:57         ` Jan Beulich
2021-04-15 13:31           ` Roger Pau Monné

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