From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
To: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, iwj@xenproject.org, wl@xen.org,
anthony.perard@citrix.com, andrew.cooper3@citrix.com,
jun.nakajima@intel.com, kevin.tian@intel.com,
Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] xl: Add support for ignore_msrs option
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 11:33:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <99dace05-576d-bd53-898b-74130ffc59fe@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YDOGWC/VK9eOtgLw@Air-de-Roger>
On 22.02.2021 11:24, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 09:50:12AM -0500, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>>
>> On 2/18/21 10:57 AM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>> On 18.02.2021 16:52, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 12:54:13PM +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>> On 18.02.2021 11:42, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
>>>>>> Not that you need to implement the full thing now, but maybe we could
>>>>>> have something like:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "
>>>>>> =item B<ignore_msrs=[ "MSR_RANGE, "MSR_RANGE", ..]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Specify a list of MSR ranges that will be ignored by the hypervisor:
>>>>>> reads will return zeros and writes will be discarded without raising a
>>>>>> #GP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Each MSR_RANGE is given in hexadecimal format and may be a range, e.g.
>>>>>> c00102f0-c00102f1 (inclusive), or a single MSR, e.g. c00102f1.
>>>>>> "
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then you can print the messages in the hypervisor using a guest log
>>>>>> level and modify it on demand in order to get more verbose output?
>>>>> "Modify on demand"? Irrespective of what you mean with this, ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think selecting whether the messages are printed or not from
>>>>>> xl is that helpful as the same could be achieved using guest_loglvl.
>>>>> ... controlling this via guest_loglvl would affect various other
>>>>> log messages' visibility.
>>>> Right, but do we really need this level of per-guest log control,
>>>> implemented in this way exclusively for MSRs?
>>
>>
>> In a multi-tenant environment we may need to figure out why a particular guest is failing to boot, without affecting behavior of other guests.
>>
>>
>> If we had per-guest log level in general then what you are suggesting would be the right thing to do IMO. Maybe that's what we should add?
>
> Yes, that would seem better IMO, but I don't think it's fair to ask
> you to do that work.
>
> Do you think it would be acceptable to untangle both, and try to get
> the MSR stuff without any logging changes?
>
> I know we would be addressing only one part of what the series
> originally tried to achieve, but I would rather prefer to have a
> generic way to set a per-guest log level rather than something
> specific to MSR accesses.
TBH I'd see us go the other route: Follow Boris'es approach for
4.15, and switch the logging control to per-guest once that
ability is there, _and_ if we're really convinced we don't want
to have this extra level of control. The latter because I think
a domain could end up pretty chatty just because of MSR accesses,
and it might therefore be undesirable to also hide all other
potentially relevant output. Perhaps the per-domain log level
control needs to be finer grained than what "guest_loglvl="
currently permits, more like what "hvm_debug=" has.
Jan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-22 10:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-01-20 22:49 [PATCH v2 0/4] Permit fault-less access to non-emulated MSRs Boris Ostrovsky
2021-01-20 22:49 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] xl: Add support for ignore_msrs option Boris Ostrovsky
2021-01-21 14:56 ` Wei Liu
2021-01-21 22:43 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2021-01-22 9:52 ` Julien Grall
2021-01-22 18:28 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2021-01-22 18:33 ` Julien Grall
2021-01-22 18:39 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2021-01-22 20:42 ` Julien Grall
2021-02-18 10:42 ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-02-18 11:54 ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-18 15:52 ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-02-18 15:57 ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-19 14:50 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2021-02-22 10:24 ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-02-22 10:33 ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2021-01-20 22:49 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] x86: Introduce MSR_UNHANDLED Boris Ostrovsky
2021-01-22 11:51 ` Jan Beulich
2021-01-22 18:56 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2021-02-02 17:01 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2021-02-18 10:51 ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-02-19 14:56 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2021-02-22 11:08 ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-02-22 21:19 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2021-02-23 7:57 ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-23 9:34 ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-02-23 10:15 ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-23 12:17 ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-02-23 13:23 ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-23 15:39 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2021-02-23 16:10 ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-23 18:00 ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-02-23 16:11 ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-02-23 16:40 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2021-02-23 18:02 ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-02-23 18:45 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2021-01-20 22:49 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] x86: Allow non-faulting accesses to non-emulated MSRs if policy permits this Boris Ostrovsky
2021-01-22 12:51 ` Jan Beulich
2021-01-22 19:52 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2021-01-25 10:22 ` Jan Beulich
2021-01-25 18:42 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2021-01-26 9:05 ` Jan Beulich
2021-01-26 16:02 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2021-01-26 16:35 ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-18 11:24 ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-02-18 11:57 ` Jan Beulich
2021-02-18 15:53 ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-01-20 22:49 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] tools/libs: Apply MSR policy to a guest Boris Ostrovsky
2021-01-21 14:58 ` Wei Liu
2021-01-22 9:56 ` Julien Grall
2021-01-22 18:35 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2021-02-18 11:48 ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-02-19 14:57 ` Boris Ostrovsky
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