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From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	"Wei Liu" <wl@xen.org>, "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] x86: reduce CET-SS related #ifdef-ary
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 21:33:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d3eb260b-e9e8-1178-828e-73eb119a01ba@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5abaf9e1-c7ba-a58c-d735-47430013eb65@citrix.com>

On 28.07.2020 16:29, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 15/07/2020 11:48, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> Now that I've done this I'm not longer sure which direction is better to
>> follow: On one hand this introduces dead code (even if just NOPs) into
>> CET-SS-disabled builds. Otoh this is a step towards breaking the tool
>> chain version dependency of the feature.
> 
> The toolchain dependency can't be broken, because of incssp and wrss in C.
> 
> There is 0 value and added complexity to trying to partially support
> legacy toolchains.

Complexity: Yes. Zero value - surely not. I'm having a hard time seeing
why you may think so. Would you mind explaining yourself?

>  Furthermore, this adds a pile of nops into builds
> which have specifically opted out of CONFIG_XEN_SHSTK, which isn't ideal
> for embedded usecases.
> 
> As a consequence, I think its better to keep things consistent with how
> they are now.
> 
> One thing I already considered was to make cpu_has_xen_shstk return
> false for !CONFIG_XEN_SHSTK, which subsumes at least one hunk in this
> change.

One is better than nothing, but still pretty little.

>> --- a/xen/arch/x86/x86_64/compat/entry.S
>> +++ b/xen/arch/x86/x86_64/compat/entry.S
>> @@ -198,9 +198,7 @@ ENTRY(cr4_pv32_restore)
>>   
>>   /* See lstar_enter for entry register state. */
>>   ENTRY(cstar_enter)
>> -#ifdef CONFIG_XEN_SHSTK
>>           ALTERNATIVE "", "setssbsy", X86_FEATURE_XEN_SHSTK
>> -#endif
> 
> I can't currently think of any option better than leaving these ifdef's
> in place, other than perhaps
> 
> #ifdef CONFIG_XEN_SHSTK
> # define MAYBE_SETSSBSY ALTERNATIVE "", "setssbsy", X86_FEATURE_XEN_SHSTK
> #else
> # define MAYBE_SETSSBSY
> #endif
> 
> and I don't like it much.

Neither do I. Then we'd also switch STAC/CLAC to MAYBE_STAC / MAYBE_CLAC.

> The think is that everything present there is semantically relevant
> information, and dropping it makes the code worse rather than better.

Everything? I don't see why the #ifdef-s are semantically relevant
(the needed infor is already conveyed by the ALTERNATIVE and its
arguments). I consider them primarily harming readability, and thus I
think we should strive to eliminate them if we can. Hence this patch
...

Jan


  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-28 19:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-15 10:47 [PATCH 0/4] x86: some assembler macro rework Jan Beulich
2020-07-15 10:48 ` [PATCH 1/4] x86: replace __ASM_{CL,ST}AC Jan Beulich
2020-07-27 14:55   ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-07-27 19:47     ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-28  9:06       ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-07-31  8:05         ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-31  8:12           ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-07-28 13:59       ` Andrew Cooper
2020-07-28 19:24         ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-28 13:55   ` Andrew Cooper
2020-07-28 19:18     ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-31  8:00     ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-15 10:48 ` [PATCH 2/4] x86: reduce CET-SS related #ifdef-ary Jan Beulich
2020-07-27 15:00   ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-07-27 19:50     ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-28  8:36       ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-07-28 14:29   ` Andrew Cooper
2020-07-28 19:33     ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2020-07-15 10:49 ` [PATCH 3/4] x86: drop ASM_{CL,ST}AC Jan Beulich
2020-07-27 15:10   ` Roger Pau Monné
2020-07-28 14:51   ` Andrew Cooper
2020-07-28 19:41     ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-15 10:49 ` [PATCH 4/4] x86: fold indirect_thunk_asm.h into asm-defns.h Jan Beulich
2020-07-27 15:16   ` Roger Pau Monné

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