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From: Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>
To: Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Cc: "Lyude Paul" <lyude@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <maxime@cerno.tech>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, freedreno@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"Stephen Boyd" <swboyd@chromium.org>,
	"Robert Foss" <robert.foss@linaro.org>,
	"Laurent Pinchart" <Laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Hsin-Yi Wang" <hsinyi@chromium.org>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@linux.ie>,
	"Imre Deak" <imre.deak@intel.com>,
	"Jani Nikula" <jani.nikula@intel.com>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm: Document that power requirements for DP AUX transfers
Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 09:12:51 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <031fccd7-0082-8284-967d-285525a64394@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220503162033.1.Ia8651894026707e4fa61267da944ff739610d180@changeid>

On 04/05/2022 02:21, Douglas Anderson wrote:
> When doing DP AUX transfers there are two actors that need to be
> powered in order for the DP AUX transfer to work: the DP source and
> the DP sync.

Nit: sink

> Commit bacbab58f09d ("drm: Mention the power state
> requirement on side-channel operations") added some documentation
> saying that the DP source is required to power itself up (if needed)
> to do AUX transfers. However, that commit doesn't talk anything about
> the DP sink.
> 
> For full fledged DP the sink isn't really a problem. It's expected
> that if an external DP monitor isn't plugged in that attempting to do
> AUX transfers won't work. It's also expected that if a DP monitor is
> plugged in (and thus asserting HPD) that it AUX transfers will work.

then

> 
> When we're looking at eDP, however, things are less obvious. Let's add
> some documentation about expectations. Here's what we'll say:
> 
> 1. We don't expect the DP AUX transfer function to power on an eDP
> panel. If an eDP panel is physically connected but powered off then it
> makes sense for the transfer to fail.
> 
> 2. We'll document that the official way to power on a panel is via the
> bridge chain, specifically by making sure that the panel's prepare
> function has been called (which is called by
> panel_bridge_pre_enable()). It's already specified in the kernel doc
> of drm_panel_prepare() that this is the way to power the panel on and
> also that after this call "it is possible to communicate with any
> integrated circuitry via a command bus."
> 
> 3. We'll also document that for code running in the panel driver
> itself that it is legal for the panel driver to power itself up
> however it wants (it doesn't need to officially call
> drm_panel_pre_enable()) and then it can do AUX bus transfers. This is
> currently the way that edp-panel works when it's running atop the DP
> AUX bus.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>

Reviewed-by: Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>

> ---
> 
>   include/drm/display/drm_dp_helper.h | 14 +++++++++++---
>   1 file changed, 11 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/include/drm/display/drm_dp_helper.h b/include/drm/display/drm_dp_helper.h
> index dca40a045dd6..e5165b708a40 100644
> --- a/include/drm/display/drm_dp_helper.h
> +++ b/include/drm/display/drm_dp_helper.h
> @@ -370,9 +370,17 @@ struct drm_dp_aux {
>   	 * helpers assume this is the case.
>   	 *
>   	 * Also note that this callback can be called no matter the
> -	 * state @dev is in. Drivers that need that device to be powered
> -	 * to perform this operation will first need to make sure it's
> -	 * been properly enabled.
> +	 * state @dev is in and also no matter what state the panel is
> +	 * in. It's expected:
> +	 * - If the @dev providing the AUX bus is currently unpowered then
> +	 *   it will power itself up for the transfer.
> +	 * - If we're on eDP and the panel is not in a state where it can
> +	 *   respond (it's not powered or it's in a low power state) then this
> +	 *   function will return an error (but not crash). Note that if a
> +	 *   panel driver is initiating a DP AUX transfer it may power itself
> +	 *   up however it wants. All other code should ensure that the
> +	 *   pre_enable() bridge chain (which eventually calls the panel
> +	 *   prepare function) has powered the panel.
>   	 */
>   	ssize_t (*transfer)(struct drm_dp_aux *aux,
>   			    struct drm_dp_aux_msg *msg);


-- 
With best wishes
Dmitry

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From: Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>
To: Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Cc: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	Hsin-Yi Wang <hsinyi@chromium.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Robert Foss <robert.foss@linaro.org>,
	Stephen Boyd <swboyd@chromium.org>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <maxime@cerno.tech>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, freedreno@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Laurent Pinchart <Laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm: Document that power requirements for DP AUX transfers
Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 09:12:51 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <031fccd7-0082-8284-967d-285525a64394@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220503162033.1.Ia8651894026707e4fa61267da944ff739610d180@changeid>

On 04/05/2022 02:21, Douglas Anderson wrote:
> When doing DP AUX transfers there are two actors that need to be
> powered in order for the DP AUX transfer to work: the DP source and
> the DP sync.

Nit: sink

> Commit bacbab58f09d ("drm: Mention the power state
> requirement on side-channel operations") added some documentation
> saying that the DP source is required to power itself up (if needed)
> to do AUX transfers. However, that commit doesn't talk anything about
> the DP sink.
> 
> For full fledged DP the sink isn't really a problem. It's expected
> that if an external DP monitor isn't plugged in that attempting to do
> AUX transfers won't work. It's also expected that if a DP monitor is
> plugged in (and thus asserting HPD) that it AUX transfers will work.

then

> 
> When we're looking at eDP, however, things are less obvious. Let's add
> some documentation about expectations. Here's what we'll say:
> 
> 1. We don't expect the DP AUX transfer function to power on an eDP
> panel. If an eDP panel is physically connected but powered off then it
> makes sense for the transfer to fail.
> 
> 2. We'll document that the official way to power on a panel is via the
> bridge chain, specifically by making sure that the panel's prepare
> function has been called (which is called by
> panel_bridge_pre_enable()). It's already specified in the kernel doc
> of drm_panel_prepare() that this is the way to power the panel on and
> also that after this call "it is possible to communicate with any
> integrated circuitry via a command bus."
> 
> 3. We'll also document that for code running in the panel driver
> itself that it is legal for the panel driver to power itself up
> however it wants (it doesn't need to officially call
> drm_panel_pre_enable()) and then it can do AUX bus transfers. This is
> currently the way that edp-panel works when it's running atop the DP
> AUX bus.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>

Reviewed-by: Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>

> ---
> 
>   include/drm/display/drm_dp_helper.h | 14 +++++++++++---
>   1 file changed, 11 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/include/drm/display/drm_dp_helper.h b/include/drm/display/drm_dp_helper.h
> index dca40a045dd6..e5165b708a40 100644
> --- a/include/drm/display/drm_dp_helper.h
> +++ b/include/drm/display/drm_dp_helper.h
> @@ -370,9 +370,17 @@ struct drm_dp_aux {
>   	 * helpers assume this is the case.
>   	 *
>   	 * Also note that this callback can be called no matter the
> -	 * state @dev is in. Drivers that need that device to be powered
> -	 * to perform this operation will first need to make sure it's
> -	 * been properly enabled.
> +	 * state @dev is in and also no matter what state the panel is
> +	 * in. It's expected:
> +	 * - If the @dev providing the AUX bus is currently unpowered then
> +	 *   it will power itself up for the transfer.
> +	 * - If we're on eDP and the panel is not in a state where it can
> +	 *   respond (it's not powered or it's in a low power state) then this
> +	 *   function will return an error (but not crash). Note that if a
> +	 *   panel driver is initiating a DP AUX transfer it may power itself
> +	 *   up however it wants. All other code should ensure that the
> +	 *   pre_enable() bridge chain (which eventually calls the panel
> +	 *   prepare function) has powered the panel.
>   	 */
>   	ssize_t (*transfer)(struct drm_dp_aux *aux,
>   			    struct drm_dp_aux_msg *msg);


-- 
With best wishes
Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-04  6:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-03 23:21 [PATCH] drm: Document that power requirements for DP AUX transfers Douglas Anderson
2022-05-03 23:21 ` Douglas Anderson
2022-05-04  6:12 ` Dmitry Baryshkov [this message]
2022-05-04  6:12   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-05-04 12:21 ` Ville Syrjälä
2022-05-04 12:21   ` Ville Syrjälä
2022-05-04 16:04   ` Doug Anderson
2022-05-04 16:04     ` Doug Anderson
2022-05-04 18:10     ` Lyude Paul
2022-05-04 18:10       ` Lyude Paul
2022-05-05 14:46       ` Ville Syrjälä
2022-05-05 14:46         ` Ville Syrjälä
2022-05-05 15:00         ` Doug Anderson
2022-05-05 15:00           ` Doug Anderson
2022-05-05 15:08           ` Ville Syrjälä
2022-05-05 15:08             ` Ville Syrjälä
2022-05-05 15:53             ` Doug Anderson
2022-05-05 15:53               ` Doug Anderson
2022-05-05 19:19               ` Ville Syrjälä
2022-05-05 19:19                 ` Ville Syrjälä
2022-05-05 20:12                 ` Doug Anderson
2022-05-05 20:12                   ` Doug Anderson
2022-05-05 20:09               ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-05-05 20:09                 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-05-05 20:21                 ` Doug Anderson
2022-05-05 20:21                   ` Doug Anderson
2022-05-05 20:56                   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-05-05 20:56                     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-05-05 21:24                     ` Doug Anderson
2022-05-05 21:24                       ` Doug Anderson
2022-05-05 22:15                       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-05-05 22:15                         ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-05-05 22:28                         ` Doug Anderson
2022-05-05 22:28                           ` Doug Anderson
2022-05-05 14:47       ` Doug Anderson
2022-05-05 14:47         ` Doug Anderson
2022-05-05 19:47 ` Lyude Paul
2022-05-05 19:47   ` Lyude Paul

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