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From: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, marcin.slusarz@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v5)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:06:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091013000601.GA2334@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091012145810.b2aed62b.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 02:58:10PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:13:42 -0400
> Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com> wrote:
> 
> > Its been requested often that we have the ability to read and modify process
> > rlimit values from contexts external to the owning process.  Ideally this allows
> > sysadmins to adjust rlimits on long running processes wihout the need to stop
> > and restart those processes, which incurs undesireable downtime.  This patch
> > enables that functionality,  It does so in two places.  First it enables process
> > limit setting by writing to the /proc/pid/limits file a string in the format:
> > <limit> <current limit> <max limit> > /proc/<pid>/limits
> > where limit is one of
> > [as,core,cpu,data,fsize,locks,memlock,msgqueue,nice,nofile,nproc,rss,rtprio,rttime]
> > 
> > Secondly it allows for programatic setting of these limits via 2 new syscalls,
> > getprlimit, and setprlimit, which act in an identical fashion to getrlimit and
> > setrlimit respectively, except that they except a process id as an extra
> > argument, to specify the process id of the rlimit values that you wish to
> > read/write
> 
> I'm still not seeing why we need the /proc interface.
> 
> We've been using a syscall to set rlimits for ever and we've survived.
> 
Except that we haven't.  We've had the read side of the proc interface for years
now, simply because people asked for it.  We could have add getprlimit back
then, but we didn't because users liked this.  Its easy, its obvious, and and it
doesn't require a sysadmin to remember the name of another utility.

> It just adds bloat and complexity to the kernel because putting a
> 100-line tool into util-linux is All Too Hard.
> 
And, with the adjustments to support the getprlimit/setprlimit syscalls in this
series, the net additional code to support a writeable /proc interface totals
about 80 lines.  I really think 'bloat' is a bit of an overstatement here.  If
you're really that worried about it, we can surround the proc interface with a
config option.  But at this point people have become acoustomed to having
/proc/pid/limits available, I don't see why 80 lines to add the ability to set
limits is really that much of a barrier.

Neil


      reply	other threads:[~2009-10-13  0:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-28 20:06 [PATCH] proc: augment /proc/pid/limits to allow setting of process limits Neil Horman
2009-09-28 22:44 ` Andrew Morton
2009-09-29  1:14   ` Neil Horman
2009-09-29 20:25   ` [PATCH] proc: augment /proc/pid/limits to allow setting of process limits (v2) Neil Horman
2009-09-29 20:46     ` Andrew Morton
2009-09-30  0:59       ` Neil Horman
2009-10-01 17:15 ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v3) Neil Horman
2009-10-01 17:16   ` [PATCH 1/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-04 12:14     ` Marcin Slusarz
2009-10-04 16:50       ` Neil Horman
2009-10-04 20:04         ` Marcin Slusarz
2009-10-04 23:10           ` Neil Horman
2009-10-04 20:30     ` Marcin Slusarz
2009-10-01 17:21   ` [PATCH 2/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-01 17:22   ` [PATCH 3/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-05  0:26   ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v4) Neil Horman
2009-10-05  0:53     ` [PATCH 1/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-08 21:32       ` Marcin Slusarz
2009-10-09  2:00         ` Neil Horman
2009-10-05  0:54     ` [PATCH 2/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-05  1:57       ` Américo Wang
2009-10-05 12:32         ` Neil Horman
2009-10-05  0:54     ` [PATCH 3/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-12 16:13   ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v5) Neil Horman
2009-10-12 16:20     ` [PATCH 1/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-12 16:25     ` [PATCH 2/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-12 16:27     ` [PATCH 3/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-12 20:13     ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v6) Neil Horman
2009-10-12 20:20       ` [PATCH 1/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-12 20:23       ` [PATCH 2/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-12 20:25       ` [PATCH 3/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-20  0:52       ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v7) Neil Horman
2009-10-20  0:53         ` [PATCH 1/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-20  0:54         ` [PATCH 2/3] " Neil Horman
2009-11-02 15:10           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-02 17:40             ` Neil Horman
2009-10-20  0:55         ` [PATCH 3/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-28 14:44         ` [PATCH 0/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-30 18:24           ` Neil Horman
2009-11-02 15:25         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-02 17:54           ` Neil Horman
2009-11-02 18:51             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-03  0:23               ` Neil Horman
2009-11-04 11:26                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-05 20:48                   ` Neil Horman
2009-11-06  9:26                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-06 10:00                       ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-08 10:36                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-09  0:10                           ` Neil Horman
2009-11-09  8:32                             ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-09 13:34                               ` Neil Horman
2009-11-09  8:54                       ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-09  9:01                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-09  9:22                           ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-09  9:26                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-09 13:35                               ` Neil Horman
2009-11-09 15:56                           ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-09 16:40                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-09 17:15                               ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-09 17:26                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-09 17:36                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-18 14:51                                   ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 01/16] core: posix-cpu-timers, cleanup rlimits usage Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 16:48                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 02/16] core: do security check under task_lock Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 21:47                                       ` James Morris
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 03/16] IA64: use ACCESS_ONCE for rlimits Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                       ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 18:56                                       ` Luck, Tony
2009-11-18 18:56                                         ` Luck, Tony
2009-11-18 19:48                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-18 19:48                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-19  2:28                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-19  2:28                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 04/16] PPC: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                       ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 05/16] S390: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 06/16] SPARC: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                       ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 17:55                                       ` David Miller
2009-11-18 17:55                                         ` David Miller
2009-11-18 18:09                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-18 18:09                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 07/16] X86: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 08/16] FS: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 09/16] MM: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                       ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 15:29                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-18 15:29                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 10/16] core: " Jiri Slaby
     [not found]                                     ` <4B040A03.2020508-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-18 14:51                                       ` [PATCH 11/16] misc: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                         ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 12/16] core: rename setrlimit to do_setrlimit Jiri Slaby
2009-11-20  6:10                                       ` Américo Wang
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 13/16] core: implement getprlimit and setprlimit syscalls Jiri Slaby
2009-11-20 13:14                                       ` Neil Horman
2009-11-18 14:52                                     ` [PATCH 14/16] unistd: add __NR_[get|set]prlimit syscall numbers Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:52                                     ` [PATCH 15/16] COMPAT: add get/put_compat_rlimit Jiri Slaby
2009-12-30 23:55                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-06  9:35                                         ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:52                                     ` [PATCH 16/16] x86: add ia32 compat prlimit syscalls Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 23:15                                     ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v7) Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-19 15:43                                       ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-20  2:11                                         ` acct_file_reopen() && do_acct_process() (Was: [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v7)) Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-20 10:27                                           ` Jiri Slaby
2009-10-12 21:58     ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v5) Andrew Morton
2009-10-13  0:06       ` Neil Horman [this message]

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