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From: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	marcin.slusarz@gmail.com, tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com,
	hpa@zytor.com, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v7)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:48:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091105204843.GA2980@hmsreliant.think-freely.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091104112632.GA9243@elte.hu>

On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 12:26:32PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 07:51:37PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > 
> > > * Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > Have you ensured that no rlimit gets propagated during task init 
> > > > > into some other value - under the previously correct assumption that 
> > > > > rlimits dont change asynchronously under the feet of tasks?
> > > > 
> > > > I've looked, and the only place that I see the rlim array getting 
> > > > copied is via copy_signal when we're in the clone path.  The 
> > > > entire rlim array is copied from old task_struct to new 
> > > > task_struct under the protection of the current->group_leader task 
> > > > lock, which I also hold when updating via sys_setprlimit, so I 
> > > > think we're safe in this case.
> > > 
> > > I mean - do we set up any data structure based on a particular 
> > > rlimit, that can get out of sync with the rlimit being updated?
> > > 
> > > A prominent example would be the stack limit - we base address 
> > > layout decisions on it. Check arch/x86/mm/mmap.c. RLIM_INFINITY has 
> > > a special meaning plus we also set mmap_base() based on the rlim.
> > 
> > Ah, I didn't consider those.  Yes it looks like some locking might be 
> > needed for cases like that.  what would you suggest, simply grabbing 
> > the task lock before looking at the rlim array?  That seems a bit 
> > heavy handed, especially if we want to use the locking consistently.  
> > What if we just converted the int array of rlimit to atomic_t's?  
> > Would that be sufficient, or still to heavy?

Just to provide a quick update on this, it appears that (unbeknowst to me), 
Jiri Slaby got almost this exact same feature in via the linux-next tree:
commits
ba9ba971a9241250646091935d77d2f31b7c15af
4a4a4e5f51d866284db401ea4d8ba5f0c91cc1eb
c1b9b7eaf7386a7f142d59a2bb433ac8217b0ad1

It still likely needs an audit to make sure theres no race with task access on
the rlimit array, but it doesn't currently require additional security checks
because the only access for a process to another processes limits is by writing
to the /proc/<pid>/limits file, as I had initial proposed.  I think theres still
value in the sysscall, so I'll keep going with that aspect, but the rest of the
work appears done.

Regards

Neil


  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-05 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-28 20:06 [PATCH] proc: augment /proc/pid/limits to allow setting of process limits Neil Horman
2009-09-28 22:44 ` Andrew Morton
2009-09-29  1:14   ` Neil Horman
2009-09-29 20:25   ` [PATCH] proc: augment /proc/pid/limits to allow setting of process limits (v2) Neil Horman
2009-09-29 20:46     ` Andrew Morton
2009-09-30  0:59       ` Neil Horman
2009-10-01 17:15 ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v3) Neil Horman
2009-10-01 17:16   ` [PATCH 1/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-04 12:14     ` Marcin Slusarz
2009-10-04 16:50       ` Neil Horman
2009-10-04 20:04         ` Marcin Slusarz
2009-10-04 23:10           ` Neil Horman
2009-10-04 20:30     ` Marcin Slusarz
2009-10-01 17:21   ` [PATCH 2/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-01 17:22   ` [PATCH 3/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-05  0:26   ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v4) Neil Horman
2009-10-05  0:53     ` [PATCH 1/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-08 21:32       ` Marcin Slusarz
2009-10-09  2:00         ` Neil Horman
2009-10-05  0:54     ` [PATCH 2/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-05  1:57       ` Américo Wang
2009-10-05 12:32         ` Neil Horman
2009-10-05  0:54     ` [PATCH 3/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-12 16:13   ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v5) Neil Horman
2009-10-12 16:20     ` [PATCH 1/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-12 16:25     ` [PATCH 2/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-12 16:27     ` [PATCH 3/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-12 20:13     ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v6) Neil Horman
2009-10-12 20:20       ` [PATCH 1/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-12 20:23       ` [PATCH 2/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-12 20:25       ` [PATCH 3/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-20  0:52       ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v7) Neil Horman
2009-10-20  0:53         ` [PATCH 1/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-20  0:54         ` [PATCH 2/3] " Neil Horman
2009-11-02 15:10           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-02 17:40             ` Neil Horman
2009-10-20  0:55         ` [PATCH 3/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-28 14:44         ` [PATCH 0/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-30 18:24           ` Neil Horman
2009-11-02 15:25         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-02 17:54           ` Neil Horman
2009-11-02 18:51             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-03  0:23               ` Neil Horman
2009-11-04 11:26                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-05 20:48                   ` Neil Horman [this message]
2009-11-06  9:26                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-06 10:00                       ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-08 10:36                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-09  0:10                           ` Neil Horman
2009-11-09  8:32                             ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-09 13:34                               ` Neil Horman
2009-11-09  8:54                       ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-09  9:01                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-09  9:22                           ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-09  9:26                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-09 13:35                               ` Neil Horman
2009-11-09 15:56                           ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-09 16:40                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-09 17:15                               ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-09 17:26                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-09 17:36                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-18 14:51                                   ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 01/16] core: posix-cpu-timers, cleanup rlimits usage Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 16:48                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 02/16] core: do security check under task_lock Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 21:47                                       ` James Morris
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 03/16] IA64: use ACCESS_ONCE for rlimits Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                       ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 18:56                                       ` Luck, Tony
2009-11-18 18:56                                         ` Luck, Tony
2009-11-18 19:48                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-18 19:48                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-19  2:28                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-19  2:28                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 04/16] PPC: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                       ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 05/16] S390: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 06/16] SPARC: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                       ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 17:55                                       ` David Miller
2009-11-18 17:55                                         ` David Miller
2009-11-18 18:09                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-18 18:09                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 07/16] X86: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 08/16] FS: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 09/16] MM: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                       ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 15:29                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-18 15:29                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 10/16] core: " Jiri Slaby
     [not found]                                     ` <4B040A03.2020508-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-18 14:51                                       ` [PATCH 11/16] misc: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                         ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 12/16] core: rename setrlimit to do_setrlimit Jiri Slaby
2009-11-20  6:10                                       ` Américo Wang
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 13/16] core: implement getprlimit and setprlimit syscalls Jiri Slaby
2009-11-20 13:14                                       ` Neil Horman
2009-11-18 14:52                                     ` [PATCH 14/16] unistd: add __NR_[get|set]prlimit syscall numbers Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:52                                     ` [PATCH 15/16] COMPAT: add get/put_compat_rlimit Jiri Slaby
2009-12-30 23:55                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-06  9:35                                         ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:52                                     ` [PATCH 16/16] x86: add ia32 compat prlimit syscalls Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 23:15                                     ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v7) Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-19 15:43                                       ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-20  2:11                                         ` acct_file_reopen() && do_acct_process() (Was: [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v7)) Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-20 10:27                                           ` Jiri Slaby
2009-10-12 21:58     ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v5) Andrew Morton
2009-10-13  0:06       ` Neil Horman

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