From: Peter De Schrijver <pdeschrijver@nvidia.com> To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org Subject: Re: Device tree binding for DVFS table Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 10:34:08 +0000 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20120713103408.GF9437@tbergstrom-lnx.Nvidia.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20120712171016.GL2772@gmail.com> Hi Mike, > > Peter, > > I agree with your observations in general, but I think some specificity > is needed: > > > + frequency/voltage relationships > > We should be clear that the voltage does NOT belong to the clock, but to > the device/module/IP block that consumes that clock. This is an > important detail since it means that a clock does not have a > corresponding table of voltages (e.g. one table per clock), but instead > a device has a table of voltages corresponding to each clock. > Or the other way around, a table of clock frequencies, 1 for each voltage. > This is very necessary when a single clock drives multiple devices which > are driven by separate voltage rails. > Ah ok. How does this work in practice? A device can only run at a given clock rate if all the rails are at a certain voltage? > > + power rail constraints (eg voltage difference limit between 2 rails) > > This should come from regulator DT data and not anything DVFS-specific, > correct? > That's true. I think it can even be open-coded as this is a SoC internal thing. All boards using this SoC will have the same limits, so I see little reason to move this info to DT. > > + clock constraints (eg. clock x frequency must be a fixed ratio of clock y > > frequency) > > Yeah, after sending my email above yesterday I instantly regretted it. > It is true that *functional* clock dependencies are really the purview > of the device driver. E.g. for Device X to operate at FAST_SPEED, scale > functional_clk up to 200MHz and l3_ddr_clk up to 100MHz. On OMAP our > display subsystem block also has clock ratio rules that must be honored, > but it just open-coded. > > It is possible to model those in DT if we really want, but shouldn't be > a priority for these dvfs-specific bindings. > Agreed. Cheers, Peter.
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From: pdeschrijver@nvidia.com (Peter De Schrijver) To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org Subject: Device tree binding for DVFS table Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 13:34:08 +0300 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20120713103408.GF9437@tbergstrom-lnx.Nvidia.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20120712171016.GL2772@gmail.com> Hi Mike, > > Peter, > > I agree with your observations in general, but I think some specificity > is needed: > > > + frequency/voltage relationships > > We should be clear that the voltage does NOT belong to the clock, but to > the device/module/IP block that consumes that clock. This is an > important detail since it means that a clock does not have a > corresponding table of voltages (e.g. one table per clock), but instead > a device has a table of voltages corresponding to each clock. > Or the other way around, a table of clock frequencies, 1 for each voltage. > This is very necessary when a single clock drives multiple devices which > are driven by separate voltage rails. > Ah ok. How does this work in practice? A device can only run at a given clock rate if all the rails are at a certain voltage? > > + power rail constraints (eg voltage difference limit between 2 rails) > > This should come from regulator DT data and not anything DVFS-specific, > correct? > That's true. I think it can even be open-coded as this is a SoC internal thing. All boards using this SoC will have the same limits, so I see little reason to move this info to DT. > > + clock constraints (eg. clock x frequency must be a fixed ratio of clock y > > frequency) > > Yeah, after sending my email above yesterday I instantly regretted it. > It is true that *functional* clock dependencies are really the purview > of the device driver. E.g. for Device X to operate at FAST_SPEED, scale > functional_clk up to 200MHz and l3_ddr_clk up to 100MHz. On OMAP our > display subsystem block also has clock ratio rules that must be honored, > but it just open-coded. > > It is possible to model those in DT if we really want, but shouldn't be > a priority for these dvfs-specific bindings. > Agreed. Cheers, Peter.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-07-13 10:34 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2012-07-11 12:56 Device tree binding for DVFS table Prashant Gaikwad 2012-07-11 13:08 ` Prashant Gaikwad 2012-07-11 14:03 ` Rob Herring 2012-07-11 14:03 ` Rob Herring 2012-07-11 14:44 ` Mark Brown 2012-07-11 14:44 ` Mark Brown 2012-07-11 20:04 ` Mike Turquette 2012-07-11 20:04 ` Mike Turquette 2012-07-12 4:14 ` Prashant Gaikwad 2012-07-12 4:26 ` Prashant Gaikwad 2012-07-12 14:10 ` Peter De Schrijver 2012-07-12 14:10 ` Peter De Schrijver 2012-07-12 17:10 ` Mike Turquette 2012-07-12 17:10 ` Mike Turquette 2012-07-12 17:15 ` Mark Brown 2012-07-12 17:15 ` Mark Brown 2012-07-13 10:34 ` Peter De Schrijver [this message] 2012-07-13 10:34 ` Peter De Schrijver 2012-07-13 17:25 ` Mike Turquette 2012-07-13 17:25 ` Mike Turquette 2012-07-12 4:17 ` Prashant Gaikwad 2012-07-12 4:29 ` Prashant Gaikwad 2012-07-12 15:23 ` Mark Brown 2012-07-12 15:23 ` Mark Brown 2012-07-12 17:01 ` Mike Turquette 2012-07-12 17:01 ` Mike Turquette 2012-07-12 8:19 ` Peter De Schrijver 2012-07-12 8:19 ` Peter De Schrijver 2012-07-12 4:08 ` Prashant Gaikwad 2012-07-12 4:20 ` Prashant Gaikwad 2012-07-13 18:30 ` Prashant Gaikwad 2012-07-13 18:42 ` Prashant Gaikwad 2012-07-15 21:40 ` Mark Brown 2012-07-15 21:40 ` Mark Brown 2012-07-15 23:42 ` Rob Herring 2012-07-15 23:42 ` Rob Herring 2012-07-16 18:36 ` Turquette, Mike 2012-07-16 18:36 ` Turquette, Mike 2012-07-17 12:37 ` Prashant Gaikwad 2012-07-17 12:49 ` Prashant Gaikwad 2012-07-17 13:20 ` Mark Brown 2012-07-17 13:20 ` Mark Brown 2012-07-17 14:22 ` Prashant Gaikwad 2012-07-17 14:34 ` Prashant Gaikwad 2012-07-17 14:37 ` Mark Brown 2012-07-17 14:37 ` Mark Brown 2012-07-18 12:46 ` Prashant Gaikwad 2012-07-18 12:58 ` Prashant Gaikwad 2012-07-18 21:19 ` Mark Brown 2012-07-18 21:19 ` Mark Brown 2012-07-18 17:08 ` Shawn Guo 2012-07-18 17:08 ` Shawn Guo 2012-07-11 13:08 함명주 2012-07-11 13:08 ` 함명주 2012-07-11 13:49 ` Peter De Schrijver 2012-07-11 13:49 ` Peter De Schrijver 2012-07-11 13:49 ` Peter De Schrijver 2012-07-11 13:49 ` Peter De Schrijver 2012-07-12 4:22 ` Prashant Gaikwad 2012-07-12 4:34 ` Prashant Gaikwad
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