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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Nils Holland <nholland@tisys.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>, David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm, oom: do not enfore OOM killer for __GFP_NOFAIL automatically
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 12:31:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161216173151.GA23182@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161216155808.12809-3-mhocko@kernel.org>

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 04:58:08PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> @@ -1013,7 +1013,7 @@ bool out_of_memory(struct oom_control *oc)
>  	 * make sure exclude 0 mask - all other users should have at least
>  	 * ___GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM to get here.
>  	 */
> -	if (oc->gfp_mask && !(oc->gfp_mask & (__GFP_FS|__GFP_NOFAIL)))
> +	if (oc->gfp_mask && !(oc->gfp_mask & __GFP_FS))
>  		return true;

This makes sense, we should go back to what we had here. Because it's
not that the reported OOMs are premature - there is genuinely no more
memory reclaimable from the allocating context - but that this class
of allocations should never invoke the OOM killer in the first place.

> @@ -3737,6 +3752,16 @@ __alloc_pages_slowpath(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
>  		 */
>  		WARN_ON_ONCE(order > PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER);
>  
> +		/*
> +		 * Help non-failing allocations by giving them access to memory
> +		 * reserves but do not use ALLOC_NO_WATERMARKS because this
> +		 * could deplete whole memory reserves which would just make
> +		 * the situation worse
> +		 */
> +		page = __alloc_pages_cpuset_fallback(gfp_mask, order, ALLOC_HARDER, ac);
> +		if (page)
> +			goto got_pg;
> +

But this should be a separate patch, IMO.

Do we observe GFP_NOFS lockups when we don't do this? Don't we risk
premature exhaustion of the memory reserves, and it's better to wait
for other reclaimers to make some progress instead? Should we give
reserve access to all GFP_NOFS allocations, or just the ones from a
reclaim/cleaning context? All that should go into the changelog of a
separate allocation booster patch, I think.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Nils Holland <nholland@tisys.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>, David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm, oom: do not enfore OOM killer for __GFP_NOFAIL automatically
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 12:31:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161216173151.GA23182@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161216155808.12809-3-mhocko@kernel.org>

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 04:58:08PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> @@ -1013,7 +1013,7 @@ bool out_of_memory(struct oom_control *oc)
>  	 * make sure exclude 0 mask - all other users should have at least
>  	 * ___GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM to get here.
>  	 */
> -	if (oc->gfp_mask && !(oc->gfp_mask & (__GFP_FS|__GFP_NOFAIL)))
> +	if (oc->gfp_mask && !(oc->gfp_mask & __GFP_FS))
>  		return true;

This makes sense, we should go back to what we had here. Because it's
not that the reported OOMs are premature - there is genuinely no more
memory reclaimable from the allocating context - but that this class
of allocations should never invoke the OOM killer in the first place.

> @@ -3737,6 +3752,16 @@ __alloc_pages_slowpath(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
>  		 */
>  		WARN_ON_ONCE(order > PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER);
>  
> +		/*
> +		 * Help non-failing allocations by giving them access to memory
> +		 * reserves but do not use ALLOC_NO_WATERMARKS because this
> +		 * could deplete whole memory reserves which would just make
> +		 * the situation worse
> +		 */
> +		page = __alloc_pages_cpuset_fallback(gfp_mask, order, ALLOC_HARDER, ac);
> +		if (page)
> +			goto got_pg;
> +

But this should be a separate patch, IMO.

Do we observe GFP_NOFS lockups when we don't do this? Don't we risk
premature exhaustion of the memory reserves, and it's better to wait
for other reclaimers to make some progress instead? Should we give
reserve access to all GFP_NOFS allocations, or just the ones from a
reclaim/cleaning context? All that should go into the changelog of a
separate allocation booster patch, I think.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-16 17:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 155+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-15 22:57 OOM: Better, but still there on 4.9 Nils Holland
2016-12-16  7:39 ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-16  7:39   ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 15:58   ` OOM: Better, but still there on Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 15:58     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 15:58     ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: consolidate GFP_NOFAIL checks in the allocator slowpath Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 15:58       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 15:58     ` [PATCH 2/2] mm, oom: do not enfore OOM killer for __GFP_NOFAIL automatically Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 15:58       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 17:31       ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2016-12-16 17:31         ` Johannes Weiner
2016-12-16 22:12         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 22:12           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-17 11:17           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-17 11:17             ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-18 16:37             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-18 16:37               ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 18:47     ` OOM: Better, but still there on Nils Holland
2016-12-16 18:47       ` Nils Holland
2016-12-17  0:02       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-17  0:02         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-17 12:59         ` Nils Holland
2016-12-17 12:59           ` Nils Holland
2016-12-17 14:44           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-17 14:44             ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-17 17:11             ` Nils Holland
2016-12-17 17:11               ` Nils Holland
2016-12-17 21:06             ` Nils Holland
2016-12-17 21:06               ` Nils Holland
2016-12-18  5:14               ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-18  5:14                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-19 13:45               ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-19 13:45                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-20  2:08                 ` Nils Holland
2016-12-20  2:08                   ` Nils Holland
2016-12-21  7:36                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-21  7:36                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-21 11:00                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-21 11:00                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-21 11:16                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-21 11:16                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-21 14:04                         ` Chris Mason
2016-12-21 14:04                           ` Chris Mason
2016-12-22 10:10                     ` Nils Holland
2016-12-22 10:10                       ` Nils Holland
2016-12-22 10:27                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-22 10:27                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-22 10:35                         ` Nils Holland
2016-12-22 10:35                           ` Nils Holland
2016-12-22 10:46                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-22 10:46                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-22 19:17                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-22 19:17                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-22 21:46                         ` Nils Holland
2016-12-22 21:46                           ` Nils Holland
2016-12-23 10:51                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-23 10:51                             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-23 12:18                             ` Nils Holland
2016-12-23 12:18                               ` Nils Holland
2016-12-23 12:57                               ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-23 12:57                                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-23 14:47                                 ` [RFC PATCH] mm, memcg: fix (Re: OOM: Better, but still there on) Michal Hocko
2016-12-23 14:47                                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-23 22:26                                   ` Nils Holland
2016-12-23 22:26                                     ` Nils Holland
2016-12-26 12:48                                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-26 12:48                                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-26 18:57                                       ` Nils Holland
2016-12-26 18:57                                         ` Nils Holland
2016-12-27  8:08                                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-27  8:08                                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-27 11:23                                           ` Nils Holland
2016-12-27 11:23                                             ` Nils Holland
2016-12-27 11:27                                             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-27 11:27                                               ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-27 15:55                                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-27 15:55                                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-27 16:28                                         ` [PATCH] mm, vmscan: consider eligible zones in get_scan_count kbuild test robot
2016-12-28  8:51                                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-28  8:51                                             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-27 19:33                                         ` [RFC PATCH] mm, memcg: fix (Re: OOM: Better, but still there on) Nils Holland
2016-12-27 19:33                                           ` Nils Holland
2016-12-28  8:57                                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-28  8:57                                             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-29  1:20                                         ` Minchan Kim
2016-12-29  1:20                                           ` Minchan Kim
2016-12-29  9:04                                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-29  9:04                                             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-30  2:05                                             ` Minchan Kim
2016-12-30  2:05                                               ` Minchan Kim
2016-12-30 10:40                                               ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-30 10:40                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-29  0:31                                       ` Minchan Kim
2016-12-29  0:31                                         ` Minchan Kim
2016-12-29  0:48                                         ` Minchan Kim
2016-12-29  0:48                                           ` Minchan Kim
2016-12-29  8:52                                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-29  8:52                                             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-30 10:19                                       ` Mel Gorman
2016-12-30 10:19                                         ` Mel Gorman
2016-12-30 11:05                                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-30 11:05                                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-30 12:43                                           ` Mel Gorman
2016-12-30 12:43                                             ` Mel Gorman
2016-12-25 22:25                                   ` [lkp-developer] [mm, memcg] d18e2b2aca: WARNING:at_mm/memcontrol.c:#mem_cgroup_update_lru_size kernel test robot
2016-12-25 22:25                                     ` kernel test robot
2016-12-26 12:26                                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-26 12:26                                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-26 12:26                                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-26 12:50                                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-26 12:50                                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-26 12:50                                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-18  0:28             ` OOM: Better, but still there on Xin Zhou
2016-12-16 18:15   ` OOM: Better, but still there on 4.9 Chris Mason
2016-12-16 18:15     ` Chris Mason
2016-12-16 22:14     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 22:14       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 22:47       ` Chris Mason
2016-12-16 22:47         ` Chris Mason
2016-12-16 23:31         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 23:31           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-16 19:50   ` Chris Mason
2016-12-16 19:50     ` Chris Mason
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-12-01 15:25 [PATCH 0/2] GFP_NOFAIL cleanups Michal Hocko
2016-12-01 15:25 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm, oom: do not enfore OOM killer for __GFP_NOFAIL automatically Michal Hocko
2016-12-01 15:25   ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-02  7:23   ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-12-02  7:23     ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-12-05 13:45   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-05 13:45     ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-05 14:10     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-05 14:10       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-06  8:27       ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-06  8:27         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-06 10:38       ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-06 10:38         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-06 11:03         ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-12-06 11:03           ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-12-06 19:25           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-06 19:25             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-06 19:22         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-06 19:22           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-08 12:53           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-08 12:53             ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-08 13:47             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-08 13:47               ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-11 11:23               ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-11 11:23                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-11 13:53                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-11 13:53                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-12-12  8:52                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-12  8:52                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-12  8:48                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-12  8:48                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-14 10:34                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-14 10:34                     ` Michal Hocko

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