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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: Keiichi Watanabe <keiichiw@chromium.org>
Cc: virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, acourbot@chromium.org,
	alexlau@chromium.org, dgreid@chromium.org, marcheu@chromium.org,
	posciak@chromium.org, stevensd@chromium.org, tfiga@chromium.org,
	hverkuil@xs4all.nl, linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] [PATCH] [RFC RESEND] vdec: Add virtio video decode device specification
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 10:56:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190923085637.bsaevedklweijgya@sirius.home.kraxel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190919093404.182015-1-keiichiw@chromium.org>

  Hi,

> Our prototype implementation uses [4], which allows the virtio-vdec
> device to use buffers allocated by virtio-gpu device.

> [4] https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/9/12/157

Well.  I think before even discussing the protocol details we need a
reasonable plan for buffer handling.  I think using virtio-gpu buffers
should be an optional optimization and not a requirement.  Also the
motivation for that should be clear (Let the host decoder write directly
to virtio-gpu resources, to display video without copying around the
decoded framebuffers from one device to another).

Referencing virtio-gpu buffers needs a better plan than just re-using
virtio-gpu resource handles.  The handles are device-specific.  What if
there are multiple virtio-gpu devices present in the guest?

I think we need a framework for cross-device buffer sharing.  One
possible option would be to have some kind of buffer registry, where
buffers can be registered for cross-device sharing and get a unique
id (a uuid maybe?).  Drivers would typically register buffers on
dma-buf export.

Another option would be to pass around both buffer handle and buffer
owner, i.e. instead of "u32 handle" have something like this:

struct buffer_reference {
	enum device_type; /* pci, virtio-mmio, ... */
	union device_address {
		struct pci_address pci_addr;
		u64 virtio_mmio_addr;
		[ ... ]
	};
	u64 device_buffer_handle; /* device-specific, virtio-gpu could use resource ids here */
};

cheers,
  Gerd


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: Keiichi Watanabe <keiichiw@chromium.org>
Cc: virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, acourbot@chromium.org,
	alexlau@chromium.org, dgreid@chromium.org, marcheu@chromium.org,
	posciak@chromium.org, stevensd@chromium.org, tfiga@chromium.org,
	hverkuil@xs4all.nl, linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] [PATCH] [RFC RESEND] vdec: Add virtio video decode device specification
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 10:56:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190923085637.bsaevedklweijgya@sirius.home.kraxel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190919093404.182015-1-keiichiw@chromium.org>

  Hi,

> Our prototype implementation uses [4], which allows the virtio-vdec
> device to use buffers allocated by virtio-gpu device.

> [4] https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/9/12/157

Well.  I think before even discussing the protocol details we need a
reasonable plan for buffer handling.  I think using virtio-gpu buffers
should be an optional optimization and not a requirement.  Also the
motivation for that should be clear (Let the host decoder write directly
to virtio-gpu resources, to display video without copying around the
decoded framebuffers from one device to another).

Referencing virtio-gpu buffers needs a better plan than just re-using
virtio-gpu resource handles.  The handles are device-specific.  What if
there are multiple virtio-gpu devices present in the guest?

I think we need a framework for cross-device buffer sharing.  One
possible option would be to have some kind of buffer registry, where
buffers can be registered for cross-device sharing and get a unique
id (a uuid maybe?).  Drivers would typically register buffers on
dma-buf export.

Another option would be to pass around both buffer handle and buffer
owner, i.e. instead of "u32 handle" have something like this:

struct buffer_reference {
	enum device_type; /* pci, virtio-mmio, ... */
	union device_address {
		struct pci_address pci_addr;
		u64 virtio_mmio_addr;
		[ ... ]
	};
	u64 device_buffer_handle; /* device-specific, virtio-gpu could use resource ids here */
};

cheers,
  Gerd


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-09-23  8:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-19  9:34 [PATCH] [RFC RESEND] vdec: Add virtio video decode device specification Keiichi Watanabe
2019-09-19  9:34 ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2019-09-19  9:52 ` Hans Verkuil
2019-09-19 11:15   ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-09-19 11:15     ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2019-09-19 11:17     ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-09-19 11:17       ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe
2019-09-23  8:56 ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2019-09-23  8:56   ` [virtio-dev] " Gerd Hoffmann
2019-10-05  6:08   ` Tomasz Figa
2019-10-05  6:08     ` Tomasz Figa
2019-10-07 14:00     ` Dmitry Morozov
2019-10-07 14:00       ` Dmitry Morozov
2019-10-07 14:14       ` Tomasz Figa
2019-10-07 14:14         ` Tomasz Figa
2019-10-07 15:09         ` Dmitry Morozov
2019-10-07 15:09           ` Dmitry Morozov
2019-10-09  3:55           ` Tomasz Figa
2019-10-09  3:55             ` Tomasz Figa
2019-10-11  8:53             ` Dmitry Morozov
2019-10-11  8:53               ` Dmitry Morozov
2019-10-14 12:34               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-10-14 12:34                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-10-14 13:05                 ` Dmitry Morozov
2019-10-14 13:05                   ` Dmitry Morozov
2019-10-15  7:54                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-10-15  7:54                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-10-15 14:06                     ` Dmitry Morozov
2019-10-15 14:06                       ` Dmitry Morozov
2019-10-17  8:06                       ` Tomasz Figa
2019-10-17  8:06                         ` Tomasz Figa
2019-10-17  6:40               ` Tomasz Figa
2019-10-17  6:40                 ` Tomasz Figa
2019-10-17  7:19                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-10-17  7:19                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-10-17  8:11                   ` Tomasz Figa
2019-10-17  8:11                     ` Tomasz Figa
2019-10-17 10:13                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-10-17 10:13                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-10-29  7:39                       ` David Stevens
2019-10-31  7:30                         ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-10-31  7:30                           ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-10-31  9:10                       ` David Stevens
2019-10-31  9:10                         ` David Stevens
2019-11-07  8:29                         ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-11-07  8:29                           ` Keiichi Watanabe
2019-10-14 12:19     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-10-14 12:19       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-10-17  6:58       ` Tomasz Figa
2019-10-17  6:58         ` Tomasz Figa
2019-10-17  7:44         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-10-17  7:44           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-10-17  8:23           ` Tomasz Figa
2019-10-17  8:23             ` Tomasz Figa
2019-10-17 10:22             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-10-17 10:22               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-10-17 15:00         ` Frank Yang
2019-10-17 16:22           ` Frank Yang
2019-10-17  7:06       ` David Stevens

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