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From: Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com>
To: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>
Cc: Nicolin Chen <nicoleotsuka@gmail.com>,
	joro@8bytes.org, krzk@kernel.org, vdumpa@nvidia.com,
	jonathanh@nvidia.com, linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] iommu/tegra-smmu: Rework .probe_device and .attach_dev
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 05:11:30 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <35115ac1-fb25-7226-7b50-61193669e696@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200930164707.GB3852280@ulmo>

30.09.2020 19:47, Thierry Reding пишет:
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 07:25:41PM +0300, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
>> 30.09.2020 19:06, Thierry Reding пишет:
>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 06:36:52PM +0300, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
>>>>  I'...
>>>>>> +	struct tegra_mc *mc = devm_tegra_get_memory_controller(dev);
>>>>>> +	struct iommu_fwspec *fwspec = dev_iommu_fwspec_get(dev);
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks to me like the only reason why you need this new global API is
>>>>> because PCI devices may not have a device tree node with a phandle to
>>>>> the IOMMU. However, SMMU support for PCI will only be enabled if the
>>>>> root complex has an iommus property, right? In that case, can't we
>>>>> simply do something like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> 	if (dev_is_pci(dev))
>>>>> 		np = find_host_bridge(dev)->of_node;
>>>>> 	else
>>>>> 		np = dev->of_node;
>>>>>
>>>>> ? I'm not sure exactly what find_host_bridge() is called, but I'm pretty
>>>>> sure that exists.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once we have that we can still iterate over the iommus property and do
>>>>> not need to rely on this global variable.
>>>>
>>>> This sounds more complicated than the current variant.
>>>>
>>>> Secondly, I'm already about to use the new tegra_get_memory_controller()
>>>> API for all the T20/30/124/210 EMC and devfreq drivers.
>>>
>>> Why do we need it there? They seem to work fine without it right now.
>>
>> All the Tegra30/124/210 EMC drivers are already duplicating that MC
>> lookup code and only the recent T210 driver does it properly.
>>
>>> If it is required for new functionality, we can always make the dependent
>>> on a DT reference via phandle without breaking any existing code.
>>
>> That's correct, it will be also needed for the new functionality as
>> well, hence even more drivers will need to perform the MC lookup.
> 
> I don't have any issues with adding a helper if we need it from several
> different locations. But the helper should be working off of a given
> device and look up the device via the device tree node referenced by
> phandle. We already have those phandles in place for the EMC devices,
> and any other device that needs to interoperate with the MC should also
> get such a reference.
> 
>> I don't quite understand why you're asking for the phandle reference,
>> it's absolutely not needed for the MC lookup and won't work for the
> 
> We need that phandle in order to establish a link between the devices.
> Yes, you can probably do it without the phandle and just match by
> compatible string. But we don't do that for other types of devices
> either, right? For a display driver we reference the attached panel via
> phandle, but we could also just look it up via name or absolute path or
> some other heuristic. But a phandle is just a much more explicit way of
> linking the devices, so why not use it?

There are dozens variants of the panels and system could easily have
more than one panel, hence a direct lookup by phandle is a natural
choice for the panels.

While all Tegra SoCs have a single fixed MC in the system, and thus,
there is no real need to use phandle because we can't mix up MC with
anything else.

>> older DTs if DT change will be needed. Please give a detailed explanation.
> 
> New functionality doesn't have to work with older DTs.

This is fine in general, but I'm afraid that in this particular case we
will need to have a fall back anyways because otherwise it should break
the old functionality.

So I don't think that using phandle for the MC device finding is really
warrant.

Phandle is kinda more applicable for the cases where only the DT node
lookup is needed (not the lookup of the MC device driver), but even then
it is also not mandatory.

I hope you agree.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com>
To: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	krzk@kernel.org, jonathanh@nvidia.com,
	linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] iommu/tegra-smmu: Rework .probe_device and .attach_dev
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 05:11:30 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <35115ac1-fb25-7226-7b50-61193669e696@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200930164707.GB3852280@ulmo>

30.09.2020 19:47, Thierry Reding пишет:
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 07:25:41PM +0300, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
>> 30.09.2020 19:06, Thierry Reding пишет:
>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 06:36:52PM +0300, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
>>>>  I'...
>>>>>> +	struct tegra_mc *mc = devm_tegra_get_memory_controller(dev);
>>>>>> +	struct iommu_fwspec *fwspec = dev_iommu_fwspec_get(dev);
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks to me like the only reason why you need this new global API is
>>>>> because PCI devices may not have a device tree node with a phandle to
>>>>> the IOMMU. However, SMMU support for PCI will only be enabled if the
>>>>> root complex has an iommus property, right? In that case, can't we
>>>>> simply do something like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> 	if (dev_is_pci(dev))
>>>>> 		np = find_host_bridge(dev)->of_node;
>>>>> 	else
>>>>> 		np = dev->of_node;
>>>>>
>>>>> ? I'm not sure exactly what find_host_bridge() is called, but I'm pretty
>>>>> sure that exists.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once we have that we can still iterate over the iommus property and do
>>>>> not need to rely on this global variable.
>>>>
>>>> This sounds more complicated than the current variant.
>>>>
>>>> Secondly, I'm already about to use the new tegra_get_memory_controller()
>>>> API for all the T20/30/124/210 EMC and devfreq drivers.
>>>
>>> Why do we need it there? They seem to work fine without it right now.
>>
>> All the Tegra30/124/210 EMC drivers are already duplicating that MC
>> lookup code and only the recent T210 driver does it properly.
>>
>>> If it is required for new functionality, we can always make the dependent
>>> on a DT reference via phandle without breaking any existing code.
>>
>> That's correct, it will be also needed for the new functionality as
>> well, hence even more drivers will need to perform the MC lookup.
> 
> I don't have any issues with adding a helper if we need it from several
> different locations. But the helper should be working off of a given
> device and look up the device via the device tree node referenced by
> phandle. We already have those phandles in place for the EMC devices,
> and any other device that needs to interoperate with the MC should also
> get such a reference.
> 
>> I don't quite understand why you're asking for the phandle reference,
>> it's absolutely not needed for the MC lookup and won't work for the
> 
> We need that phandle in order to establish a link between the devices.
> Yes, you can probably do it without the phandle and just match by
> compatible string. But we don't do that for other types of devices
> either, right? For a display driver we reference the attached panel via
> phandle, but we could also just look it up via name or absolute path or
> some other heuristic. But a phandle is just a much more explicit way of
> linking the devices, so why not use it?

There are dozens variants of the panels and system could easily have
more than one panel, hence a direct lookup by phandle is a natural
choice for the panels.

While all Tegra SoCs have a single fixed MC in the system, and thus,
there is no real need to use phandle because we can't mix up MC with
anything else.

>> older DTs if DT change will be needed. Please give a detailed explanation.
> 
> New functionality doesn't have to work with older DTs.

This is fine in general, but I'm afraid that in this particular case we
will need to have a fall back anyways because otherwise it should break
the old functionality.

So I don't think that using phandle for the MC device finding is really
warrant.

Phandle is kinda more applicable for the cases where only the DT node
lookup is needed (not the lookup of the MC device driver), but even then
it is also not mandatory.

I hope you agree.
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-01  2:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-30  8:42 [PATCH v3 0/3] iommu/tegra-smmu: Add PCI support Nicolin Chen
2020-09-30  8:42 ` Nicolin Chen
2020-09-30  8:42 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] memory: tegra: Add devm_tegra_get_memory_controller() Nicolin Chen
2020-09-30  8:42   ` Nicolin Chen
2020-09-30  9:07   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-09-30  9:07     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-09-30  9:41     ` Nicolin Chen
2020-09-30  9:41       ` Nicolin Chen
2020-09-30 10:27       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-09-30 10:27         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-09-30 14:41   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 14:41     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 14:45     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-09-30 14:45       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-09-30 15:22       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 15:22         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 15:23   ` Thierry Reding
2020-09-30 15:23     ` Thierry Reding
2020-09-30 15:27     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 15:27       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 15:53     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 15:53       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 16:03       ` Thierry Reding
2020-09-30 16:03         ` Thierry Reding
2020-09-30 16:06         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 16:06           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 16:15           ` Thierry Reding
2020-09-30 16:15             ` Thierry Reding
2020-09-30 16:26             ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 16:26               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 16:38               ` Thierry Reding
2020-09-30 16:38                 ` Thierry Reding
2020-09-30 17:32                 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 17:32                   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30  8:42 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] iommu/tegra-smmu: Rework .probe_device and .attach_dev Nicolin Chen
2020-09-30  8:42   ` Nicolin Chen
2020-09-30  9:21   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-09-30  9:21     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-09-30  9:40     ` Nicolin Chen
2020-09-30  9:40       ` Nicolin Chen
2020-09-30 10:19       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-09-30 10:19         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-09-30 14:41   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 14:41     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 15:09   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 15:09     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 20:51     ` Nicolin Chen
2020-09-30 20:51       ` Nicolin Chen
2020-09-30 15:31   ` Thierry Reding
2020-09-30 15:31     ` Thierry Reding
2020-09-30 15:36     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 15:36       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 16:06       ` Thierry Reding
2020-09-30 16:06         ` Thierry Reding
2020-09-30 16:25         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 16:25           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 16:47           ` Thierry Reding
2020-09-30 16:47             ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-01  2:11             ` Dmitry Osipenko [this message]
2020-10-01  2:11               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-01  7:58               ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-01  7:58                 ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-01 19:04                 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-01 19:04                   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-05  9:16                   ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-05  9:16                     ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-05  9:38                     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-05  9:38                       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-05 10:27                       ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-05 10:27                         ` Thierry Reding
2020-09-30 16:10       ` Thierry Reding
2020-09-30 16:10         ` Thierry Reding
2020-09-30 16:29         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 16:29           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-01  7:59           ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-01  7:59             ` Thierry Reding
2020-09-30 20:36     ` Nicolin Chen
2020-09-30 20:36       ` Nicolin Chen
2020-09-30 21:24       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 21:24         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 21:32         ` Nicolin Chen
2020-09-30 21:32           ` Nicolin Chen
2020-09-30 21:56           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 21:56             ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-01  1:26             ` Nicolin Chen
2020-10-01  1:26               ` Nicolin Chen
2020-10-01  2:06               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-01  2:06                 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-01  2:48                 ` Nicolin Chen
2020-10-01  2:48                   ` Nicolin Chen
2020-10-01  4:04                   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-01  4:04                     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-01 10:23                   ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-01 10:23                     ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-01 11:04                     ` Nicolin Chen
2020-10-01 11:04                       ` Nicolin Chen
2020-10-01 20:33                       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-01 20:33                         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-02  1:07                         ` Nicolin Chen
2020-10-02  1:07                           ` Nicolin Chen
2020-10-02  1:55                           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-02  1:55                             ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-02  2:54                             ` Nicolin Chen
2020-10-02  2:54                               ` Nicolin Chen
2020-10-05  7:24                             ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-05  7:24                               ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-05  7:13                         ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-05  7:13                           ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-05  8:14                           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-05  8:14                             ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-10-05  9:31                             ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-05  9:31                               ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-01  9:54                 ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-01  9:54                   ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-01  9:51               ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-01  9:51                 ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-01 10:33                 ` Nicolin Chen
2020-10-01 10:33                   ` Nicolin Chen
2020-10-01 10:42                   ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-01 10:42                     ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-01  9:47       ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-01  9:47         ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-01 10:46       ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-01 10:46         ` Thierry Reding
2020-10-02  1:29         ` Nicolin Chen
2020-10-02  1:29           ` Nicolin Chen
2020-09-30  8:42 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] iommu/tegra-smmu: Add PCI support Nicolin Chen
2020-09-30  8:42   ` Nicolin Chen
2020-09-30 14:53   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 14:53     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-09-30 20:03     ` Nicolin Chen
2020-09-30 20:03       ` Nicolin Chen

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