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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Simon Kirby <sim@hostway.ca>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Linux 3.1-rc9
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:22:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E9C9CAE.9090207@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111017211951.GA8043@elte.hu>

On 10/17/2011 02:19 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> it's 64/32 division - it's the /1000000000 /1000000 /1000 divisions 
> in the large majority of cases, to convert between 
> seconds/milliseconds/microseconds and scalar nanoseconds.
> 
> the kernel-internal ktime_t in the 32-bit optimized case is:
> 
> union ktime {
>         s32     sec, nsec;
> };
> 
> which is the same as timespec and arithmetically close to timeval, 
> which many ABIs use. So conversion is easy in that case - but 
> arithmetics gets a bit harder.
> 
> If we used a scalar 64-bit form for all kernel internal time 
> representations:
> 
> 	s64	nsecs;
> 
> then conversions back to timespec/timeval would involve dividing this 
> 64-bit value with 1000000000 or 1000000.
> 
> Is there no faster approximation for those than bit by bit?
> 
> In particular we could try something like:
> 
> 	(high*2^32 + low)/1e9 ~==  ( high * (2^64/1e9) ) / 2^32
> 
> ... which reduces it all to a 64-bit multiplication (or two 32-bit 
> multiplications) with a known constant, at the cost of 1 nsec 
> imprecision of the result - but that's an OK approximation in my 
> opinion.
> 

We can do much better than that with reciprocal multiplication.  We're
already playing reciprocal multiplication tricks for jiffies conversion,
and in this case it's much easier because the constant is already known.

	-hpa


  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-17 21:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-05  1:40 Linux 3.1-rc9 Linus Torvalds
2011-10-07  7:08 ` Simon Kirby
2011-10-07 17:48   ` Simon Kirby
2011-10-07 18:01     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-08  0:33       ` Simon Kirby
2011-10-08  0:50       ` Simon Kirby
2011-10-08  7:55         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-12 21:35           ` Simon Kirby
2011-10-13 23:25             ` Simon Kirby
2011-10-17  1:39               ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-17  4:58                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-10-17  9:03                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-10-17 10:40                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 11:40                       ` Alan Cox
2011-10-17 18:49                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-10-17 20:35                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-17 21:19                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-10-17 21:22                           ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2011-10-17 21:39                             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-10-17 22:03                               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-10-17 22:04                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-10-17 22:08                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-18  6:01                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-10-18  7:12                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-10-18 18:50                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-17 21:31                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-10-17  7:55                 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2011-10-17  9:12                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17  9:18                     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2011-10-17 20:48                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-10-18  7:20                     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2011-10-17 10:34                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 14:07                   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2011-10-17 14:57                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-17 17:54                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 18:31                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-17 19:23                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 21:00                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-10-18  8:39                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-10-18  9:05                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-18 14:59                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-18 15:26                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-10-18 18:07                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-10-18 18:14                                   ` [GIT PULL] timer fix Ingo Molnar
2011-10-18 16:13                                 ` Linux 3.1-rc9 Dave Jones
2011-10-18 18:20                                 ` Simon Kirby
2011-10-18 19:48                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-10-18 20:12                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-25 15:26                                       ` Simon Kirby
2011-10-26  1:47                                         ` Yong Zhang
2011-10-24 19:02                                     ` Simon Kirby
2011-10-25  7:13                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-25  9:01                                         ` David Miller
2011-10-25 12:30                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-10-25 23:18                                             ` David Miller
2011-10-25 20:20                                       ` Simon Kirby
2011-10-31 17:32                                         ` Simon Kirby
2011-11-02 16:40                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-11-02 17:27                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-11-02 17:46                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-02 17:53                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-11-02 18:00                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-02 18:05                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-11-02 18:10                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-02 17:49                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-11-02 17:58                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-11-02 19:16                                                   ` Simon Kirby
2011-11-02 22:42                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-11-03  0:24                                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-11-03  0:52                                                       ` Simon Kirby
2011-11-03 22:07                                                         ` David Miller
2011-11-03  6:06                                                       ` Jörg-Volker Peetz
2011-11-03  6:26                                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-11-03  6:43                                                           ` David Miller
2011-11-02 17:54                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-11-02 18:04                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-11-02 18:28                                             ` Simon Kirby
2011-11-02 18:30                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-11-02 22:10                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2011-11-02 23:00                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2011-11-03  0:09                                               ` Simon Kirby
2011-11-03  0:15                                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-11-03  0:17                                                   ` Simon Kirby
2011-11-18 23:11                                         ` [tip:perf/core] lockdep: Show subclass in pretty print of lockdep output tip-bot for Steven Rostedt
2011-10-20 14:36                 ` Linux 3.1-rc9 Martin Schwidefsky
2011-10-23 11:34                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-10-24  7:48                     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2011-10-24  7:51                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-24  8:08                         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2011-10-18  5:40             ` Simon Kirby
2011-10-09 20:51 ` Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz
2011-10-10  2:29   ` [tpmdd-devel] " Stefan Berger
2011-10-10 16:23     ` Rajiv Andrade
2011-10-10 17:05       ` Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz
2011-10-10 17:22         ` Stefan Berger
2011-10-10 17:57           ` Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz
2011-10-10 21:08             ` Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz
2011-10-11  7:09             ` [tpmdd-devel] " Peter.Huewe

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