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From: Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@amd.com>
To: David Vrabel <dvrabel@cantab.net>
Cc: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <Stefano.Stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Juergen Gross <juergen.gross@ts.fujitsu.com>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Dario Faggioli <raistlin@linux.it>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0 of 3 v5/leftover] Automatic NUMA placement for	xl
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 13:43:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5009446E.3000900@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50093C0E.9030809@cantab.net>

On 07/20/2012 01:07 PM, David Vrabel wrote:
> On 16/07/12 18:13, Dario Faggioli wrote:
>> Hello again,
>>
>> This is a new version (fixing a small bug) of this series:
>> <patchbomb.1341932613@Solace>, which in turn was a repost of what remained
>> un-committed of my NUMA placement series.
>
> Whilst I don't think this should prevent the merging of this series now,
> I think there needs to be some sort of unit tests for the placement
> algorithm before the 4.2 release.
>
> I think the tests should test a representative sample of common system
> configurations, available memory and VM memory requirements.  I'd
> suggest you'd be looking at 100s of test cases here for reasonable coverage.
>
> One method would be to start with various 'empty' systems and pile as
> many differently sized VMs as will fit.  You may want both fixed test of
> reproducible tests and random ones.

That sounds good. Though I don't have much automated testing experience 
with Xen I could chime in with two things:

1. If we focus on placement only, I have good experience with 
ttylinux.iso. Those live distros can be killed easily at any time and 
you just need one instance of the .iso file on the disk.
2. # xl vcpu-list | sed -e 1d | sort -n -k 7 | tr -s \  | cut -d\  -f7 | 
uniq -c
This gives the number of VCPUs per node (sort of ;-)

> Some means of automatically verifying the quality of the result at each
> stage would be essential.

This "automatically verifying the quality of the result" doesn't sound 
trivial. If we knew this exactly, we could just code this into the 
algorithm, right?
Also it seems to depend on the setup. Maybe we just collect some test 
output first and then try to come up with quality algorithms?

Regards,
Andre.


-- 
Andre Przywara
AMD-Operating System Research Center (OSRC), Dresden, Germany

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-20 11:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-10 15:03 [PATCH 0 of 3 v4/leftover] Automatic NUMA placement for xl Dario Faggioli
2012-07-10 15:03 ` [PATCH 1 of 3 v4/leftover] libxl: enable automatic placement of guests on NUMA nodes Dario Faggioli
2012-07-17 15:55   ` Ian Jackson
2012-07-16 17:13     ` [PATCH 0 of 3 v5/leftover] Automatic NUMA placement for xl Dario Faggioli
2012-07-16 17:13       ` [PATCH 1 of 3 v5/leftover] libxl: enable automatic placement of guests on NUMA nodes Dario Faggioli
2012-07-17 18:04         ` [PATCH 1 of 3 v5/leftover] libxl: enable automatic placement of guests on NUMA nodes [and 1 more messages] Ian Jackson
2012-07-17 20:23           ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-18  0:31             ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-18 10:44             ` Ian Jackson
2012-07-18  0:22           ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-18  8:27             ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-18  9:13             ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-18  9:43               ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-18  9:53                 ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-18 10:08                   ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-18 11:00                   ` Ian Jackson
2012-07-18 13:14                     ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-18 13:35                       ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-19 12:47                       ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-18 13:40                     ` Andre Przywara
2012-07-18 13:54                       ` Juergen Gross
2012-07-18 14:00                       ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-19 14:43                       ` Ian Jackson
2012-07-19 18:37                         ` Andre Przywara
2012-07-21  1:46                           ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-18 10:53                 ` Ian Jackson
2012-07-18 13:12                   ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-18  9:47             ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-19 12:21         ` [PATCH 1 of 3 v5/leftover] libxl: enable automatic placement of guests on NUMA nodes Andre Przywara
2012-07-19 14:22           ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-20  8:19             ` Andre Przywara
2012-07-20  9:39               ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-20 10:01                 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-20  8:20             ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-20  8:26               ` Andre Przywara
2012-07-20  8:38                 ` Juergen Gross
2012-07-20  9:52                   ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-20  9:56                     ` Juergen Gross
2012-07-20  9:44                 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-20 11:47                   ` Andre Przywara
2012-07-20 12:54                     ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-20 13:07                       ` Andre Przywara
2012-07-21  1:44                         ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-16 17:13       ` [PATCH 2 of 3 v5/leftover] libxl: have NUMA placement deal with cpupools Dario Faggioli
2012-07-16 17:13       ` [PATCH 3 of 3 v5/leftover] Some automatic NUMA placement documentation Dario Faggioli
2012-07-20 11:07       ` [PATCH 0 of 3 v5/leftover] Automatic NUMA placement for xl David Vrabel
2012-07-20 11:43         ` Andre Przywara [this message]
2012-07-20 12:00           ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-20 12:08             ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-23 10:38               ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-23 10:42                 ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-23 15:31                   ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-23 10:23             ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-20 12:14           ` David Vrabel
2012-07-17 15:59     ` [PATCH 1 of 3 v4/leftover] libxl: enable automatic placement of guests on NUMA nodes Ian Campbell
2012-07-17 18:01       ` Ian Jackson
2012-07-17 22:15     ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-10 15:03 ` [PATCH 2 of 3 v4/leftover] libxl: have NUMA placement deal with cpupools Dario Faggioli
2012-07-10 15:03 ` [PATCH 3 of 3 v4/leftover] Some automatic NUMA placement documentation Dario Faggioli
2012-07-16 17:03 ` [PATCH 0 of 3 v4/leftover] Automatic NUMA placement for xl Dario Faggioli
2012-07-16 17:05 [PATCH 0 of 3 v5/leftover] " Dario Faggioli
2012-07-16 17:16 ` Dario Faggioli

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