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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Henning Schild <henning.schild@siemens.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Jailhouse <jailhouse-dev@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Using virtio for inter-VM communication
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 07:57:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <539FD8CE.2060203@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <539FD124.6050007@redhat.com>

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On 2014-06-17 07:24, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Il 15/06/2014 08:20, Jan Kiszka ha scritto:
>>> > I think implementing Xen hypercalls in jailhouse for grant table and
>>> > event channels would actually make a lot of sense.  The Xen
>>> > implementation is 2.5kLOC and I think it should be possible to compact
>>> > it noticeably, especially if you limit yourself to 64-bit guests.
>> At least the grant table model seems unsuited for Jailhouse. It allows a
>> guest to influence the mapping of another guest during runtime. This we
>> want (or even have) to avoid in Jailhouse.
> 
> IIRC implementing the grant table hypercalls with copies is inefficient
> but valid.

Back to #1: This is what Rusty is suggesting for virtio. Nothing to win
with grant tables then. And if we really have to copy, I would prefer to
use a standard.

I guess we need to play with prototypes to assess feasibility and impact
on existing code.

Jan



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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Henning Schild <henning.schild@siemens.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Jailhouse <jailhouse-dev@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Using virtio for inter-VM communication
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 07:57:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <539FD8CE.2060203@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <539FD124.6050007@redhat.com>

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On 2014-06-17 07:24, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Il 15/06/2014 08:20, Jan Kiszka ha scritto:
>>> > I think implementing Xen hypercalls in jailhouse for grant table and
>>> > event channels would actually make a lot of sense.  The Xen
>>> > implementation is 2.5kLOC and I think it should be possible to compact
>>> > it noticeably, especially if you limit yourself to 64-bit guests.
>> At least the grant table model seems unsuited for Jailhouse. It allows a
>> guest to influence the mapping of another guest during runtime. This we
>> want (or even have) to avoid in Jailhouse.
> 
> IIRC implementing the grant table hypercalls with copies is inefficient
> but valid.

Back to #1: This is what Rusty is suggesting for virtio. Nothing to win
with grant tables then. And if we really have to copy, I would prefer to
use a standard.

I guess we need to play with prototypes to assess feasibility and impact
on existing code.

Jan



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-06-17  5:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-10 16:48 Using virtio for inter-VM communication Henning Schild
2014-06-10 16:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Henning Schild
2014-06-10 22:15 ` Vincent JARDIN
2014-06-10 22:15 ` Vincent JARDIN
2014-06-10 22:15   ` [Qemu-devel] " Vincent JARDIN
2014-06-12  6:48   ` Markus Armbruster
2014-06-12  6:48   ` Markus Armbruster
2014-06-12  6:48     ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2014-06-12  7:44     ` Henning Schild
2014-06-12  7:44       ` [Qemu-devel] " Henning Schild
2014-06-12  9:31       ` Vincent JARDIN
2014-06-12  9:31       ` Vincent JARDIN
2014-06-12  9:31         ` [Qemu-devel] " Vincent JARDIN
2014-06-12 12:55       ` Markus Armbruster
2014-06-12 14:40       ` Why I advise against using ivshmem (was: [Qemu-devel] Using virtio for inter-VM communication) Markus Armbruster
2014-06-12 14:40       ` Markus Armbruster
2014-06-12 14:40         ` [Qemu-devel] Why I advise against using ivshmem (was: " Markus Armbruster
2014-06-12 16:02         ` Why I advise against using ivshmem Vincent JARDIN
2014-06-12 16:02           ` [Qemu-devel] " Vincent JARDIN
2014-06-12 16:54           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-12 16:54             ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-13  8:46           ` Markus Armbruster
2014-06-13  9:26             ` Vincent JARDIN
2014-06-13  9:31               ` Jobin Raju George
2014-06-13  9:31                 ` Jobin Raju George
2014-06-13  9:31               ` Jobin Raju George
2014-06-13  9:48               ` Olivier MATZ
2014-06-13  9:48               ` Olivier MATZ
2014-06-13  9:48                 ` Olivier MATZ
2014-06-13 10:09               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-13 13:41                 ` Vincent JARDIN
2014-06-13 13:41                 ` Vincent JARDIN
2014-06-13 13:41                   ` Vincent JARDIN
2014-06-13 14:10                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-13 14:10                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-14 18:01                     ` Vincent JARDIN
2014-06-14 18:01                       ` Vincent JARDIN
2014-06-17  2:54                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-06-17  9:03                       ` David Marchand
2014-06-17  9:03                         ` David Marchand
2014-06-17  9:44                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-18 10:48                           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-06-18 10:48                             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-06-18 14:57                             ` David Marchand
2014-06-18 14:57                             ` David Marchand
2014-06-18 14:57                               ` David Marchand
2014-06-18 15:10                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-21  9:34                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-06-26 20:02                                 ` Cam Macdonell
2014-06-26 20:02                                   ` Cam Macdonell
2014-06-18 15:01                             ` Andreas Färber
2014-06-18 15:01                               ` Andreas Färber
2014-06-19  8:25                               ` David Marchand
2014-06-19  8:25                                 ` David Marchand
2014-06-19  8:25                               ` David Marchand
2014-06-18 15:01                             ` Andreas Färber
2014-06-30 11:10                             ` Markus Armbruster
2014-06-30 11:10                             ` Markus Armbruster
2014-06-30 11:10                               ` Markus Armbruster
2014-06-18 10:51                         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-06-18 10:51                           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-06-18 14:58                           ` David Marchand
2014-06-18 14:58                           ` David Marchand
2014-06-18 14:58                             ` David Marchand
2014-06-18 14:22                         ` Claudio Fontana
2014-06-17  9:03                       ` David Marchand
2014-06-13  9:29             ` Jobin Raju George
2014-06-13  9:29               ` [Qemu-devel] " Jobin Raju George
2014-06-13  9:29             ` Jobin Raju George
2014-06-12 16:02         ` Vincent JARDIN
2014-06-12  2:27 ` Using virtio for inter-VM communication Rusty Russell
2014-06-12  2:27   ` Rusty Russell
2014-06-12  2:27   ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2014-06-12  5:32   ` Jan Kiszka
2014-06-12  5:32     ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2014-06-13  0:47     ` Rusty Russell
2014-06-13  0:47       ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2014-06-13  6:23       ` Jan Kiszka
2014-06-13  6:23         ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2014-06-13  8:45         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-13  8:45           ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-15  6:20           ` Jan Kiszka
2014-06-15  6:20           ` Jan Kiszka
2014-06-15  6:20             ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2014-06-17  5:24             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-17  5:24               ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-17  5:57               ` Jan Kiszka
2014-06-17  5:57               ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2014-06-17  5:57                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2014-06-17  5:24             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-12  5:32   ` Jan Kiszka
2014-06-10 16:48 Henning Schild

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