From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
mst@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>,
rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Do not emulate a floppy drive when -nodefaults
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 14:45:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87egmjz5sl.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <555490EE.1040802@redhat.com> (Paolo Bonzini's message of "Thu, 14 May 2015 14:11:26 +0200")
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> writes:
> On 14/05/2015 14:02, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> It should certainly be off for pc-q35-2.4 and newer. Real Q35 boards
>> commonly don't have an FDC (depends on the Super I/O chip used).
>>
>> We may want to keep it off for pc-i440fx-2.4 and newer. I doubt
>> there's a real i440FX without an FDC, but our virtual i440FX is quite
>> unlike a real one in other ways already.
>
> That would break libvirt for people upgrading from 2.3 to 2.4. So it's
> more like pc-i440fx-3.0 and pc-q35-3.0.
What exactly breaks when?
> Unless for q35 we decide to
> break everything and retroactively nuke the controller.
>
> (I'm still not sure why we have backwards-compatible machine types for q35).
Beats me :)
[...]
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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
mst@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>,
rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Do not emulate a floppy drive when -nodefaults
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 14:45:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87egmjz5sl.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <555490EE.1040802@redhat.com> (Paolo Bonzini's message of "Thu, 14 May 2015 14:11:26 +0200")
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> writes:
> On 14/05/2015 14:02, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> It should certainly be off for pc-q35-2.4 and newer. Real Q35 boards
>> commonly don't have an FDC (depends on the Super I/O chip used).
>>
>> We may want to keep it off for pc-i440fx-2.4 and newer. I doubt
>> there's a real i440FX without an FDC, but our virtual i440FX is quite
>> unlike a real one in other ways already.
>
> That would break libvirt for people upgrading from 2.3 to 2.4. So it's
> more like pc-i440fx-3.0 and pc-q35-3.0.
What exactly breaks when?
> Unless for q35 we decide to
> break everything and retroactively nuke the controller.
>
> (I'm still not sure why we have backwards-compatible machine types for q35).
Beats me :)
[...]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-14 12:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-13 17:29 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Do not emulate a floppy drive when -nodefaults Stefano Stabellini
2015-05-13 17:29 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-05-13 17:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-13 17:42 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-13 18:15 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2015-05-13 18:15 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-05-13 21:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " John Snow
2015-05-13 21:46 ` John Snow
2015-05-14 11:12 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2015-05-14 11:12 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-05-14 11:18 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-14 11:18 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-14 11:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-14 11:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-14 12:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2015-05-14 12:02 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-05-14 12:11 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 12:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 12:45 ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2015-05-14 12:45 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-05-14 12:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-14 12:48 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-14 12:53 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 12:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 13:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Sander Eikelenboom
2015-05-14 13:25 ` Sander Eikelenboom
2015-05-14 13:41 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-14 13:41 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-14 13:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 13:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 14:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2015-05-14 14:39 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-05-14 14:44 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 14:44 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 14:52 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2015-05-14 14:52 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-05-14 13:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-14 13:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-14 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-14 14:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-14 17:54 ` [Qemu-devel] " John Snow
2015-05-14 17:54 ` John Snow
2015-05-15 7:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2015-05-15 7:50 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-05-15 8:19 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-15 8:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-15 10:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2015-05-15 10:20 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-05-18 9:19 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2015-05-18 9:19 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-14 11:47 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-14 11:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-14 11:54 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 11:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 11:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-14 11:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-14 12:47 ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2015-05-14 12:47 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-05-14 4:38 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Weil
2015-05-14 4:38 ` Stefan Weil
2015-05-14 5:45 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-14 5:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-13 21:44 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-13 21:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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