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From: JeffleXu <jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org>
Cc: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	miklos@szeredi.hu, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	virtio-fs@redhat.com, joseph.qi@linux.alibaba.com,
	stefanha@redhat.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	vgoyal@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Virtio-fs] [virtiofsd PATCH v4 4/4] virtiofsd: support per-file DAX in FUSE_LOOKUP
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 18:34:53 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <88041d90-d170-3ae1-903e-2fa32e51027f@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210824121515.5419d6a7@bahia.lan>



On 8/24/21 6:15 PM, Greg Kurz wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 13:03:23 +0800
> JeffleXu <jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
>>
>> Fine. Got it. However the returned fd (opened without O_PATH) is only
>> used for FS_IOC_GETFLAGS/FS_IOC_FSGETXATTR ioctl, while in most cases
>> for special device files, these two ioctls should return -ENOTTY.
>>
> 
> The actual problem is that a FIFO will cause openat() to block until
> the other end of the FIFO is open for writing...

Got it.

> 
>> If it's really a security issue, then lo_inode_open() could be used to
> 
> ... and cause a DoS on virtiofsd. So yes, this is a security issue and
> lo_inode_open() was introduced specifically to handle this.
> 
>> get a temporary fd, i.e., check if it's a special file before opening.
>> After all, FUSE_OPEN also handles in this way. Besides, I can't
>> understand what "race-free way" means.
>>
> 
> "race-free way" means a way that guarantees that file type
> cannot change between the time you check it and the time
> you open it (TOCTOU error). For example, doing a plain stat(),
> checking st_mode and proceeding to open() is wrong : nothing
> prevents the file to be unlinked and replaced by something
> else between stat() and open().
> 
> We avoid that by keeping O_PATH fds around and using
> lo_inode_open() instead of openat().

Thanks for the detailed explanation. Got it.

> 
> In your case, it seems that you should do the checking after
> you have an actual lo_inode for the target file, and pass
> that to lo_should_enable_dax() instead of the parent lo_inode
> and target name.
> 

Yes, that will be more reasonable. Thanks.

-- 
Thanks,
Jeffle

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From: JeffleXu <jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org>
Cc: miklos@szeredi.hu, "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, virtio-fs@redhat.com,
	joseph.qi@linux.alibaba.com, stefanha@redhat.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, vgoyal@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Virtio-fs] [virtiofsd PATCH v4 4/4] virtiofsd: support per-file DAX in FUSE_LOOKUP
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 18:34:53 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <88041d90-d170-3ae1-903e-2fa32e51027f@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210824121515.5419d6a7@bahia.lan>



On 8/24/21 6:15 PM, Greg Kurz wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 13:03:23 +0800
> JeffleXu <jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
>>
>> Fine. Got it. However the returned fd (opened without O_PATH) is only
>> used for FS_IOC_GETFLAGS/FS_IOC_FSGETXATTR ioctl, while in most cases
>> for special device files, these two ioctls should return -ENOTTY.
>>
> 
> The actual problem is that a FIFO will cause openat() to block until
> the other end of the FIFO is open for writing...

Got it.

> 
>> If it's really a security issue, then lo_inode_open() could be used to
> 
> ... and cause a DoS on virtiofsd. So yes, this is a security issue and
> lo_inode_open() was introduced specifically to handle this.
> 
>> get a temporary fd, i.e., check if it's a special file before opening.
>> After all, FUSE_OPEN also handles in this way. Besides, I can't
>> understand what "race-free way" means.
>>
> 
> "race-free way" means a way that guarantees that file type
> cannot change between the time you check it and the time
> you open it (TOCTOU error). For example, doing a plain stat(),
> checking st_mode and proceeding to open() is wrong : nothing
> prevents the file to be unlinked and replaced by something
> else between stat() and open().
> 
> We avoid that by keeping O_PATH fds around and using
> lo_inode_open() instead of openat().

Thanks for the detailed explanation. Got it.

> 
> In your case, it seems that you should do the checking after
> you have an actual lo_inode for the target file, and pass
> that to lo_should_enable_dax() instead of the parent lo_inode
> and target name.
> 

Yes, that will be more reasonable. Thanks.

-- 
Thanks,
Jeffle
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From: JeffleXu <jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org>
Cc: miklos@szeredi.hu, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	virtio-fs@redhat.com, joseph.qi@linux.alibaba.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, vgoyal@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Virtio-fs] [virtiofsd PATCH v4 4/4] virtiofsd: support per-file DAX in FUSE_LOOKUP
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 18:34:53 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <88041d90-d170-3ae1-903e-2fa32e51027f@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210824121515.5419d6a7@bahia.lan>



On 8/24/21 6:15 PM, Greg Kurz wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 13:03:23 +0800
> JeffleXu <jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
>>
>> Fine. Got it. However the returned fd (opened without O_PATH) is only
>> used for FS_IOC_GETFLAGS/FS_IOC_FSGETXATTR ioctl, while in most cases
>> for special device files, these two ioctls should return -ENOTTY.
>>
> 
> The actual problem is that a FIFO will cause openat() to block until
> the other end of the FIFO is open for writing...

Got it.

> 
>> If it's really a security issue, then lo_inode_open() could be used to
> 
> ... and cause a DoS on virtiofsd. So yes, this is a security issue and
> lo_inode_open() was introduced specifically to handle this.
> 
>> get a temporary fd, i.e., check if it's a special file before opening.
>> After all, FUSE_OPEN also handles in this way. Besides, I can't
>> understand what "race-free way" means.
>>
> 
> "race-free way" means a way that guarantees that file type
> cannot change between the time you check it and the time
> you open it (TOCTOU error). For example, doing a plain stat(),
> checking st_mode and proceeding to open() is wrong : nothing
> prevents the file to be unlinked and replaced by something
> else between stat() and open().
> 
> We avoid that by keeping O_PATH fds around and using
> lo_inode_open() instead of openat().

Thanks for the detailed explanation. Got it.

> 
> In your case, it seems that you should do the checking after
> you have an actual lo_inode for the target file, and pass
> that to lo_should_enable_dax() instead of the parent lo_inode
> and target name.
> 

Yes, that will be more reasonable. Thanks.

-- 
Thanks,
Jeffle


  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-08 10:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 151+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-17  2:22 [PATCH v4 0/8] fuse,virtiofs: support per-file DAX Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22 ` [Virtio-fs] " Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22 ` Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22 ` [PATCH v4 1/8] fuse: add fuse_should_enable_dax() helper Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22   ` [Virtio-fs] " Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22   ` Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22 ` [PATCH v4 2/8] fuse: Make DAX mount option a tri-state Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22   ` [Virtio-fs] " Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22   ` Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22 ` [PATCH v4 3/8] fuse: support per-file DAX Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22   ` [Virtio-fs] " Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22   ` Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22 ` [PATCH v4 4/8] fuse: negotiate if server/client supports " Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22   ` [Virtio-fs] " Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22   ` Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22 ` [PATCH v4 5/8] fuse: enable " Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22   ` [Virtio-fs] " Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22   ` Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22 ` [PATCH v4 6/8] fuse: mark inode DONT_CACHE when per-file DAX indication changes Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22   ` [Virtio-fs] " Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22   ` Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17 10:26   ` [Virtio-fs] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-17 10:26     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-17 10:26     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-17 13:23     ` JeffleXu
2021-08-17 13:23       ` JeffleXu
2021-08-17 13:23       ` JeffleXu
2021-08-17  2:22 ` [PATCH v4 7/8] fuse: support changing per-file DAX flag inside guest Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22   ` [Virtio-fs] " Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22   ` Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22 ` [PATCH v4 8/8] fuse: show '-o dax=inode' option only when FUSE server supports Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22   ` [Virtio-fs] " Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:22   ` Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:23 ` [virtiofsd PATCH v4 0/4] virtiofsd: support per-file DAX Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:23   ` [Virtio-fs] " Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:23   ` Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:23   ` [virtiofsd PATCH v4 1/4] virtiofsd: add .ioctl() support Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:23     ` [Virtio-fs] " Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:23     ` Jeffle Xu
2021-08-18 17:33     ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-18 17:33       ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2021-08-18 17:33       ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-17  2:23   ` [virtiofsd PATCH v4 2/4] virtiofsd: expand fuse protocol to support per-file DAX Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:23     ` [Virtio-fs] " Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:23     ` Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:23   ` [virtiofsd PATCH v4 3/4] virtiofsd: support per-file DAX negotiation in FUSE_INIT Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:23     ` [Virtio-fs] " Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:23     ` Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17 17:15     ` [Virtio-fs] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-17 17:15       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-17 17:15       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-18  5:28       ` JeffleXu
2021-08-18  5:28         ` JeffleXu
2021-08-18  5:28         ` JeffleXu
2021-08-19 13:57         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-19 13:57           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-19 13:57           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-18 17:30       ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-18 17:30         ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-18 17:30         ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-17  2:23   ` [virtiofsd PATCH v4 4/4] virtiofsd: support per-file DAX in FUSE_LOOKUP Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:23     ` [Virtio-fs] " Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17  2:23     ` Jeffle Xu
2021-08-17 19:00     ` [Virtio-fs] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-17 19:00       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-17 19:00       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-18  5:46       ` JeffleXu
2021-08-18  5:46         ` JeffleXu
2021-08-18  5:46         ` JeffleXu
2021-08-19 13:08         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-19 13:08           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-19 13:08           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-20  5:03           ` JeffleXu
2021-08-20  5:03             ` JeffleXu
2021-08-20  5:03             ` JeffleXu
2021-08-24 10:15             ` Greg Kurz
2021-08-24 10:15               ` Greg Kurz
2021-08-24 10:15               ` Greg Kurz
2021-09-08 10:34               ` JeffleXu [this message]
2021-09-08 10:34                 ` JeffleXu
2021-09-08 10:34                 ` JeffleXu
2021-08-17  8:06 ` [PATCH v4 0/8] fuse,virtiofs: support per-file DAX Miklos Szeredi
2021-08-17  8:06   ` [Virtio-fs] " Miklos Szeredi
2021-08-17  9:32   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-17  9:32     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-17  9:32     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-17 10:09     ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-08-17 10:09       ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-08-17 10:37       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-17 10:37         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-17 10:37         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-08-17 13:08       ` JeffleXu
2021-08-17 13:08         ` JeffleXu
2021-08-17 13:08         ` JeffleXu
2021-08-17 14:11         ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-08-17 14:11           ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-08-17 15:19           ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-17 15:19             ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-17 15:19             ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-17 14:54         ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-17 14:54           ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-17 14:54           ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-18  5:10           ` JeffleXu
2021-08-18  5:10             ` JeffleXu
2021-08-18  5:10             ` JeffleXu
2021-08-19  6:14           ` JeffleXu
2021-08-19  6:14             ` JeffleXu
2021-08-19  6:14             ` JeffleXu
2021-08-17 12:40     ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-17 12:40       ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-17 12:40       ` Vivek Goyal
2021-09-16  8:21       ` JeffleXu
2021-09-16  8:21         ` JeffleXu
2021-09-16  8:21         ` JeffleXu
2021-09-18  3:06         ` JeffleXu
2021-09-18  3:06           ` JeffleXu
2021-09-18  3:06           ` JeffleXu
2021-09-19 19:45         ` Vivek Goyal
2021-09-19 19:45           ` Vivek Goyal
2021-09-19 19:45           ` Vivek Goyal
2021-09-22  8:16           ` JeffleXu
2021-09-22  8:16             ` JeffleXu
2021-09-22  8:16             ` JeffleXu
2021-08-17 12:39   ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-17 12:39     ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2021-08-17 12:39     ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-17 13:22     ` JeffleXu
2021-08-17 13:22       ` [Virtio-fs] " JeffleXu
2021-08-17 13:22       ` JeffleXu
2021-08-17 14:08       ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-08-17 14:08         ` [Virtio-fs] " Miklos Szeredi
2021-08-18  3:39         ` JeffleXu
2021-08-18  3:39           ` [Virtio-fs] " JeffleXu
2021-08-18  3:39           ` JeffleXu
2021-08-18  5:08           ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-08-18  5:08             ` [Virtio-fs] " Miklos Szeredi
2021-08-18 16:58             ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-18 16:58               ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2021-08-18 16:58               ` Vivek Goyal
2021-09-03  5:30         ` JeffleXu
2021-09-03  5:30           ` [Virtio-fs] " JeffleXu
2021-09-03  5:30           ` JeffleXu
2021-09-07 14:51           ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-09-07 14:51             ` [Virtio-fs] " Miklos Szeredi
2021-08-17 14:57       ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-17 14:57         ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2021-08-17 14:57         ` Vivek Goyal
2021-08-18  5:20         ` JeffleXu
2021-08-18  5:20           ` [Virtio-fs] " JeffleXu
2021-08-18  5:20           ` JeffleXu
2021-08-30 23:31         ` [Virtio-fs] " Liu Bo

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