From: Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org> To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> Cc: "Keiichi Watanabe" <keiichiw@chromium.org>, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, "Linux Media Mailing List" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>, "Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@chromium.org>, "Alex Lau" <alexlau@chromium.org>, "Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>, "Dylan Reid" <dgreid@chromium.org>, "Dmitry Sepp" <dmitry.sepp@opensynergy.com>, "Enrico Granata" <egranata@google.com>, fziglio@redhat.com, "Hans Verkuil" <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>, "Stéphane Marchesin" <marcheu@chromium.org>, "Pawel Osciak" <posciak@chromium.org>, spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, "David Stevens" <stevensd@chromium.org>, uril@redhat.com Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] virtio-video: Add virtio video device specification Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 23:08:37 +0900 [thread overview] Message-ID: <CAAFQd5AEJ0sUzqrXJAmFnBn0aU8Ef6FwXYo0LgK0NO_CdWXRVg@mail.gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20191218134037.3jbouht52bxqwfyy@sirius.home.kraxel.org> On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 10:40 PM Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > +The device MUST mark the last buffer with the > > +VIRTIO_VIDEO_BUFFER_F_EOS flag to denote completion of the drain > > +sequence. > > No, that would build a race condition into the protocol. The device > could complete the last buffer after the driver has sent the drain > command but before the device saw it. So the flag would not be > reliable. > > I also can't see why the flag is needed in the first place. The driver > should know which buffers are queued still and be able to figure > whenever the drain is complete or not without depending on that flag. > So I'd suggest to simply drop it. Unfortunately video decoders are not that simple. There are always going to be some buffers on the decoder side used as reference frames. Only the decoder knows when to release them, as it continues decoding the stream. Moreover, with certain features of certain codecs (e.g. framebuffer reordering in H.264), there could be decoded frames that need to be held by decoder, because later bitstream may contain earlier frames. How we defined this in the V4L2 stateful decoder interface is that if the decoder happened to return the last framebuffer before the drain request arrived, it would return one more, empty. From our experience that was the easiest thing to deal with from both the driver and the application, so I believe the same should apply to the host device implementation and the guest driver. > > That is the only issue I've spotted in the protocol on a first quick > look. There are a few places where the spec text could be improved. > I'll try to set aside some time to go over this in detail, but I can't > promise I'll find the time to do that before xmas and new year. Thanks a lot for review. Best regards, Tomasz
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From: Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org> To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> Cc: "Keiichi Watanabe" <keiichiw@chromium.org>, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, "Linux Media Mailing List" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>, "Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@chromium.org>, "Alex Lau" <alexlau@chromium.org>, "Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>, "Dylan Reid" <dgreid@chromium.org>, "Dmitry Sepp" <dmitry.sepp@opensynergy.com>, "Enrico Granata" <egranata@google.com>, fziglio@redhat.com, "Hans Verkuil" <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>, "Stéphane Marchesin" <marcheu@chromium.org>, "Pawel Osciak" <posciak@chromium.org>, spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, "David Stevens" <stevensd@chromium.org>, uril@redhat.com Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] virtio-video: Add virtio video device specification Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 23:08:37 +0900 [thread overview] Message-ID: <CAAFQd5AEJ0sUzqrXJAmFnBn0aU8Ef6FwXYo0LgK0NO_CdWXRVg@mail.gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20191218134037.3jbouht52bxqwfyy@sirius.home.kraxel.org> On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 10:40 PM Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > +The device MUST mark the last buffer with the > > +VIRTIO_VIDEO_BUFFER_F_EOS flag to denote completion of the drain > > +sequence. > > No, that would build a race condition into the protocol. The device > could complete the last buffer after the driver has sent the drain > command but before the device saw it. So the flag would not be > reliable. > > I also can't see why the flag is needed in the first place. The driver > should know which buffers are queued still and be able to figure > whenever the drain is complete or not without depending on that flag. > So I'd suggest to simply drop it. Unfortunately video decoders are not that simple. There are always going to be some buffers on the decoder side used as reference frames. Only the decoder knows when to release them, as it continues decoding the stream. Moreover, with certain features of certain codecs (e.g. framebuffer reordering in H.264), there could be decoded frames that need to be held by decoder, because later bitstream may contain earlier frames. How we defined this in the V4L2 stateful decoder interface is that if the decoder happened to return the last framebuffer before the drain request arrived, it would return one more, empty. From our experience that was the easiest thing to deal with from both the driver and the application, so I believe the same should apply to the host device implementation and the guest driver. > > That is the only issue I've spotted in the protocol on a first quick > look. There are a few places where the spec text could be improved. > I'll try to set aside some time to go over this in detail, but I can't > promise I'll find the time to do that before xmas and new year. Thanks a lot for review. Best regards, Tomasz --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: virtio-dev-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: virtio-dev-help@lists.oasis-open.org
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-12-18 14:08 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2019-12-18 13:02 [PATCH v2 0/1] VirtIO video device specification Keiichi Watanabe 2019-12-18 13:02 ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe 2019-12-18 13:02 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] virtio-video: Add virtio " Keiichi Watanabe 2019-12-18 13:02 ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe 2019-12-18 13:40 ` Gerd Hoffmann 2019-12-18 13:40 ` [virtio-dev] " Gerd Hoffmann 2019-12-18 14:08 ` Tomasz Figa [this message] 2019-12-18 14:08 ` Tomasz Figa 2019-12-19 7:46 ` Gerd Hoffmann 2019-12-19 7:46 ` Gerd Hoffmann 2019-12-19 9:48 ` Dmitry Sepp 2019-12-19 9:48 ` Dmitry Sepp 2019-12-19 9:59 ` Tomasz Figa 2019-12-19 9:59 ` Tomasz Figa 2019-12-19 10:54 ` Dmitry Sepp 2019-12-19 10:54 ` Dmitry Sepp 2019-12-19 12:05 ` Tomasz Figa 2019-12-19 12:05 ` Tomasz Figa 2019-12-19 13:12 ` Gerd Hoffmann 2019-12-19 13:12 ` Gerd Hoffmann 2020-01-08 13:52 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-08 13:52 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-09 13:40 ` Gerd Hoffmann 2020-01-09 13:40 ` Gerd Hoffmann 2020-01-09 14:20 ` Tomasz Figa 2020-01-09 14:20 ` Tomasz Figa 2020-01-14 7:18 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-14 7:18 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-14 10:35 ` Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-14 10:35 ` Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-15 7:49 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-15 7:49 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-15 11:12 ` Tomasz Figa 2020-01-15 11:12 ` Tomasz Figa 2019-12-19 13:01 ` Gerd Hoffmann 2019-12-19 13:01 ` Gerd Hoffmann 2020-01-08 13:50 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-08 13:50 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2019-12-19 9:26 ` Dmitry Sepp 2019-12-19 9:26 ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp 2019-12-19 9:59 ` Tomasz Figa 2019-12-19 9:59 ` [virtio-dev] " Tomasz Figa 2019-12-19 12:54 ` Gerd Hoffmann 2019-12-19 12:54 ` [virtio-dev] " Gerd Hoffmann 2019-12-18 17:29 ` Frediano Ziglio 2019-12-20 14:05 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2019-12-20 14:05 ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe 2019-12-20 15:33 ` Dmitry Sepp 2019-12-20 15:33 ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp 2019-12-19 13:28 ` Dmitry Sepp 2019-12-19 13:28 ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp 2019-12-20 15:26 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2019-12-20 15:26 ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe 2019-12-20 15:46 ` Dmitry Sepp 2019-12-21 6:46 ` Tomasz Figa 2019-12-21 6:46 ` [virtio-dev] " Tomasz Figa 2019-12-30 12:16 ` Dmitry Sepp 2019-12-30 12:16 ` Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-06 6:31 ` Tomasz Figa 2020-01-06 6:31 ` Tomasz Figa 2020-01-06 8:33 ` Gerd Hoffmann 2020-01-06 8:33 ` Gerd Hoffmann 2020-01-06 9:29 ` Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-06 9:29 ` Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-03 15:47 ` Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-03 15:47 ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-06 8:47 ` Gerd Hoffmann 2020-01-06 8:47 ` [virtio-dev] " Gerd Hoffmann 2020-01-06 10:21 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-06 10:21 ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-06 14:59 ` Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-06 14:59 ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-07 13:24 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-07 13:24 ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-07 16:50 ` Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-07 16:50 ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-08 6:59 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-08 6:59 ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-08 10:00 ` Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-08 10:00 ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-08 12:14 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-08 12:14 ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-08 12:46 ` Tomasz Figa 2020-01-08 12:46 ` [virtio-dev] " Tomasz Figa 2020-01-08 13:05 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-08 13:05 ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-08 13:11 ` Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-08 13:11 ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-08 13:23 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-08 13:23 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-08 12:23 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-08 12:23 ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe 2019-12-20 15:58 ` [PATCH v2 0/1] VirtIO " Dmitry Sepp 2019-12-20 15:58 ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp 2019-12-21 4:36 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2019-12-21 4:36 ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe 2019-12-21 6:18 ` Tomasz Figa 2019-12-21 6:18 ` [virtio-dev] " Tomasz Figa 2019-12-21 6:19 ` Tomasz Figa 2019-12-21 6:19 ` [virtio-dev] " Tomasz Figa 2020-01-03 13:05 ` Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-03 13:05 ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-06 10:30 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-06 10:30 ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-06 11:28 ` Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-06 11:28 ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-07 10:25 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-07 10:25 ` [virtio-dev] " Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-09 14:56 ` Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-09 14:56 ` [virtio-dev] " Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-10 10:16 ` Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-10 10:16 ` Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-10 13:53 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-10 13:53 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-10 15:11 ` Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-10 15:11 ` Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-11 16:06 ` Tomasz Figa 2020-01-11 16:06 ` Tomasz Figa 2020-01-13 9:50 ` Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-13 9:50 ` Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-15 11:23 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-15 11:23 ` Keiichi Watanabe 2020-01-13 9:56 ` Gerd Hoffmann 2020-01-13 9:56 ` Gerd Hoffmann 2020-01-13 10:41 ` Dmitry Sepp 2020-01-13 11:05 ` Gerd Hoffmann 2020-01-13 11:05 ` Gerd Hoffmann 2020-01-13 11:59 ` Tomasz Figa 2020-01-13 11:59 ` Tomasz Figa 2020-01-13 13:26 ` Gerd 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