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From: Finn Thain <fthain@telegraphics.com.au>
To: Markus Elfring <Markus.Elfring@web.de>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Christophe Jaillet <christophe.jaillet@wanadoo.fr>
Subject: Re: net/sonic: Fix some resource leaks in error handling paths
Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 11:14:56 +1000 (AEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.22.394.2005131028450.20@nippy.intranet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3fabce05-7da9-7daa-d92c-411369f35b4a@web.de>

On Tue, 12 May 2020, Markus Elfring wrote:

> > Markus, if you were to write a patch to improve upon coding-style.rst, 
> > who should review it?
> 
> All involved contributors have got chances to provide constructive 
> comments.

But how could someone be elevated to "involved contributor" if their 
patches were to be blocked by arbitrary application of the rules?

> I would be curious who will actually dare to contribute further ideas 
> for this area.
> 

You seem to be uniquely positioned to do that, if only because you cited 
rules which don't appear to support your objection.

> 
> > If you are unable to write or review such a patch, how can you hope to 
> > adjudicate compliance?
> 
> I can also try to achieve more improvements here to see how the 
> available software documentation will evolve.
> 

When the people who write and review the coding standards are the same 
people who write and review the code, the standards devolve (given the 
prevailing incentives).

> Regards, 
> Markus
> 

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Finn Thain <fthain@telegraphics.com.au>
To: Markus Elfring <Markus.Elfring@web.de>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Christophe Jaillet <christophe.jaillet@wanadoo.fr>
Subject: Re: net/sonic: Fix some resource leaks in error handling paths
Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 01:14:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.22.394.2005131028450.20@nippy.intranet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3fabce05-7da9-7daa-d92c-411369f35b4a@web.de>

On Tue, 12 May 2020, Markus Elfring wrote:

> > Markus, if you were to write a patch to improve upon coding-style.rst, 
> > who should review it?
> 
> All involved contributors have got chances to provide constructive 
> comments.

But how could someone be elevated to "involved contributor" if their 
patches were to be blocked by arbitrary application of the rules?

> I would be curious who will actually dare to contribute further ideas 
> for this area.
> 

You seem to be uniquely positioned to do that, if only because you cited 
rules which don't appear to support your objection.

> 
> > If you are unable to write or review such a patch, how can you hope to 
> > adjudicate compliance?
> 
> I can also try to achieve more improvements here to see how the 
> available software documentation will evolve.
> 

When the people who write and review the coding standards are the same 
people who write and review the code, the standards devolve (given the 
prevailing incentives).

> Regards, 
> Markus
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-13  1:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-09  6:15 [PATCH] net/sonic: Fix some resource leaks in error handling paths Markus Elfring
2020-05-09  6:15 ` Markus Elfring
2020-05-09 23:45 ` Finn Thain
2020-05-09 23:45   ` Finn Thain
2020-05-10  5:30   ` Markus Elfring
2020-05-10  5:30     ` Markus Elfring
2020-05-10  8:25     ` Finn Thain
2020-05-10  8:25       ` Finn Thain
2020-05-10  9:07       ` Markus Elfring
2020-05-10  9:07         ` Markus Elfring
2020-05-11  0:28         ` Finn Thain
2020-05-11  0:28           ` Finn Thain
2020-05-11  6:48           ` Markus Elfring
2020-05-11  6:48             ` Markus Elfring
2020-05-12  0:08             ` Finn Thain
2020-05-12  0:08               ` Finn Thain
2020-05-12  6:38               ` Markus Elfring
2020-05-12  6:38                 ` Markus Elfring
2020-05-13  1:14                 ` Finn Thain [this message]
2020-05-13  1:14                   ` Finn Thain
2020-05-13  5:07                   ` net/sonic: Software evolution around the application of coding standards Markus Elfring
2020-05-13  5:07                     ` Markus Elfring
2020-05-13 23:16                     ` Finn Thain
2020-05-13 23:16                       ` Finn Thain
2020-05-11  8:20           ` net/sonic: Fix some resource leaks in error handling paths Markus Elfring
2020-05-11  8:20             ` Markus Elfring
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-05-08 17:25 [PATCH] " Christophe JAILLET
2020-05-08 17:25 ` Christophe JAILLET
2020-05-08 23:28 ` Finn Thain
2020-05-08 23:28   ` Finn Thain
2020-05-09  0:57 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-09  0:57   ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-09  1:57   ` Finn Thain
2020-05-09  1:57     ` Finn Thain
2020-05-09  2:04     ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-09  2:04       ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-09  1:54 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-09  1:54   ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-09 16:47   ` Christophe JAILLET
2020-05-09 16:47     ` Christophe JAILLET
2020-05-09 18:13     ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-09 18:13       ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-09 20:31       ` Christophe JAILLET
2020-05-09 20:31         ` Christophe JAILLET
2020-05-09 22:42       ` Joe Perches
2020-05-09 22:42         ` Joe Perches
2020-05-09 23:32         ` David Miller
2020-05-09 23:32           ` David Miller
2020-05-09 23:41           ` Joe Perches
2020-05-09 23:41             ` Joe Perches
2020-05-09 23:52   ` Finn Thain
2020-05-09 23:52     ` Finn Thain

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