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From: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, ast@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net,
	kpsingh@kernel.org, keescook@chromium.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 0/8] New BPF map and BTF security LSM hooks
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 12:49:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHC9VhQHmdZYnR=+rX-3FcRh127mhJt=jAnototfTiuSoOTptg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230412043300.360803-1-andrii@kernel.org>

On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 12:33 AM Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> Add new LSM hooks, bpf_map_create_security and bpf_btf_load_security, which
> are meant to allow highly-granular LSM-based control over the usage of BPF
> subsytem. Specifically, to control the creation of BPF maps and BTF data
> objects, which are fundamental building blocks of any modern BPF application.
>
> These new hooks are able to override default kernel-side CAP_BPF-based (and
> sometimes CAP_NET_ADMIN-based) permission checks. It is now possible to
> implement LSM policies that could granularly enforce more restrictions on
> a per-BPF map basis (beyond checking coarse CAP_BPF/CAP_NET_ADMIN
> capabilities), but also, importantly, allow to *bypass kernel-side
> enforcement* of CAP_BPF/CAP_NET_ADMIN checks for trusted applications and use
> cases.

One of the hallmarks of the LSM has always been that it is
non-authoritative: it cannot unilaterally grant access, it can only
restrict what would have been otherwise permitted on a traditional
Linux system.  Put another way, a LSM should not undermine the Linux
discretionary access controls, e.g. capabilities.

If there is a problem with the eBPF capability-based access controls,
that problem needs to be addressed in how the core eBPF code
implements its capability checks, not by modifying the LSM mechanism
to bypass these checks.

-- 
paul-moore.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-04-12 16:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-12  4:32 [PATCH bpf-next 0/8] New BPF map and BTF security LSM hooks Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-12  4:32 ` [PATCH bpf-next 1/8] bpf: move unprivileged checks into map_create() and bpf_prog_load() Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-12 17:49   ` Kees Cook
2023-04-13  0:22     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-12  4:32 ` [PATCH bpf-next 2/8] bpf: inline map creation logic in map_create() function Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-12 17:53   ` Kees Cook
2023-04-13  0:22     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-12  4:32 ` [PATCH bpf-next 3/8] bpf: centralize permissions checks for all BPF map types Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-12 18:01   ` Kees Cook
2023-04-13  0:23     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-12  4:32 ` [PATCH bpf-next 4/8] bpf, lsm: implement bpf_map_create_security LSM hook Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-12 18:20   ` Kees Cook
2023-04-13  0:23     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-12  4:32 ` [PATCH bpf-next 5/8] selftests/bpf: validate new " Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-12 18:23   ` Kees Cook
2023-04-13  0:23     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-12  4:32 ` [PATCH bpf-next 6/8] bpf: drop unnecessary bpf_capable() check in BPF_MAP_FREEZE command Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-12 18:24   ` Kees Cook
2023-04-13  0:17     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-12  4:32 ` [PATCH bpf-next 7/8] bpf, lsm: implement bpf_btf_load_security LSM hook Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-12 16:52   ` Paul Moore
2023-04-13  1:43     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-13  2:47       ` Paul Moore
2023-04-12  4:33 ` [PATCH bpf-next 8/8] selftests/bpf: enhance lsm_map_create test with BTF LSM control Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-12 16:49 ` Paul Moore [this message]
2023-04-12 17:47   ` [PATCH bpf-next 0/8] New BPF map and BTF security LSM hooks Kees Cook
2023-04-12 18:06     ` Paul Moore
2023-04-12 18:28       ` Kees Cook
2023-04-12 19:06         ` Paul Moore
2023-04-13  1:43           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-13  2:56             ` Paul Moore
2023-04-13  5:16               ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-13 15:11                 ` Paul Moore
2023-04-17 23:29                   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-18  0:47                     ` Casey Schaufler
2023-04-21  0:00                       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-18 14:21                     ` Paul Moore
2023-04-21  0:00                       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-21 18:57                         ` Kees Cook
2023-04-13 16:54                 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-04-17 23:31                   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-13 19:03                 ` Jonathan Corbet
2023-04-17 23:28                   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-13 16:27             ` Casey Schaufler
2023-04-17 23:31               ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-17 23:53                 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-04-18  0:28                   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-18  0:52                     ` Casey Schaufler
2023-04-12 18:38       ` Casey Schaufler
2023-04-14 20:23     ` Dr. Greg
2023-04-17 23:31       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-19 10:53         ` Dr. Greg

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