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From: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
To: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
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Subject: RE: device compatibility interface for live migration with assigned devices
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 05:58:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BY5PR12MB43226CABD003285D0C77E2B7DC5D0@BY5PR12MB4322.namprd12.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200819033035.GA21172@joy-OptiPlex-7040>



> From: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 9:01 AM

> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 09:39:24AM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:

> > Please refer to my previous email which has more example and details.
> hi Parav,
> the example is based on a new vdpa tool running over netlink, not based on
> devlink, right?
Right.

> For vfio migration compatibility, we have to deal with both mdev and physical
> pci devices, I don't think it's a good idea to write a new tool for it, given we are
> able to retrieve the same info from sysfs and there's already an mdevctl from
mdev attribute should be visible in the mdev's sysfs tree.
I do not propose to write a new mdev tool over netlink. I am sorry if I implied that with my suggestion of vdpa tool.

If underlying device is vdpa, mdev might be able to understand vdpa device and query from it and populate in mdev sysfs tree.

The vdpa tool I propose is usable even without mdevs.
vdpa tool's role is to create one or more vdpa devices and place on the "vdpa" bus which is the lowest layer here.
Additionally this tool let user query virtqueue stats, db stats.
When a user creates vdpa net device, user may need to configure features of the vdpa device such as VIRTIO_NET_F_MAC, default VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU.
These are vdpa level features, attributes. Mdev is layer above it.

> Alex
> (https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.
> com%2Fmdevctl%2Fmdevctl&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cparav%40nvidia.com%7C
> 0c2691d430304f5ea11308d843f2d84e%7C43083d15727340c1b7db39efd9ccc17
> a%7C0%7C0%7C637334057571911357&amp;sdata=KxH7PwxmKyy9JODut8BWr
> LQyOBylW00%2Fyzc4rEvjUvA%3D&amp;reserved=0).
>
Sorry for above link mangling. Our mail server is still transitioning due to company acquisition.

I am less familiar on below points to comment.

> hi All,
> could we decide that sysfs is the interface that every VFIO vendor driver needs
> to provide in order to support vfio live migration, otherwise the userspace
> management tool would not list the device into the compatible list?
> 
> if that's true, let's move to the standardizing of the sysfs interface.
> (1) content
> common part: (must)
>    - software_version: (in major.minor.bugfix scheme)
>    - device_api: vfio-pci or vfio-ccw ...
>    - type: mdev type for mdev device or
>            a signature for physical device which is a counterpart for
> 	   mdev type.
> 
> device api specific part: (must)
>   - pci id: pci id of mdev parent device or pci id of physical pci
>     device (device_api is vfio-pci)
>   - subchannel_type (device_api is vfio-ccw)
> 
> vendor driver specific part: (optional)
>   - aggregator
>   - chpid_type
>   - remote_url
> 
> NOTE: vendors are free to add attributes in this part with a restriction that this
> attribute is able to be configured with the same name in sysfs too. e.g.
> for aggregator, there must be a sysfs attribute in device node
> /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/882cc4da-dede-11e7-9180-
> 078a62063ab1/intel_vgpu/aggregator,
> so that the userspace tool is able to configure the target device according to
> source device's aggregator attribute.
> 
> 
> (2) where and structure
> proposal 1:
> |- [path to device]
>   |--- migration
>   |     |--- self
>   |     |    |-software_version
>   |     |    |-device_api
>   |     |    |-type
>   |     |    |-[pci_id or subchannel_type]
>   |     |    |-<aggregator or chpid_type>
>   |     |--- compatible
>   |     |    |-software_version
>   |     |    |-device_api
>   |     |    |-type
>   |     |    |-[pci_id or subchannel_type]
>   |     |    |-<aggregator or chpid_type>
> multiple compatible is allowed.
> attributes should be ASCII text files, preferably with only one value per file.
> 
> 
> proposal 2: use bin_attribute.
> |- [path to device]
>   |--- migration
>   |     |--- self
>   |     |--- compatible
> 
> so we can continue use multiline format. e.g.
> cat compatible
>   software_version=0.1.0
>   device_api=vfio_pci
>   type=i915-GVTg_V5_{val1:int:1,2,4,8}
>   pci_id=80865963
>   aggregator={val1}/2
> 
> Thanks
> Yan

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-19  5:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-13 23:29 device compatibility interface for live migration with assigned devices Yan Zhao
2020-07-14 10:21 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-14 12:33   ` Sean Mooney
     [not found]     ` <20200714110148.0471c03c@x1.home>
     [not found]       ` <eb705c72cdc8b6b8959b6ebaeeac6069a718d524.camel@redhat.com>
2020-07-14 21:15         ` Sean Mooney
2020-07-14 16:16   ` Alex Williamson
2020-07-14 16:47     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-14 20:47       ` Alex Williamson
2020-07-15  9:16         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-14 17:19     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-07-14 20:59       ` Alex Williamson
2020-07-15  8:20         ` Yan Zhao
2020-07-15  8:49           ` Feng, Shaohe
2020-07-17 14:59           ` Alex Williamson
2020-07-17 18:03             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-07-17 18:30               ` Alex Williamson
2020-07-15  8:23         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
     [not found]         ` <CAH7mGatPWsczh_rbVhx4a+psJXvkZgKou3r5HrEQTqE7SqZkKA@mail.gmail.com>
2020-07-17 15:18           ` Alex Williamson
2020-07-16  4:16 ` Jason Wang
2020-07-16  8:32   ` Yan Zhao
2020-07-16  9:30     ` Jason Wang
2020-07-17 16:12     ` Alex Williamson
2020-07-20  3:41       ` Jason Wang
2020-07-20 10:39         ` Sean Mooney
2020-07-21  2:11           ` Jason Wang
2020-07-21  0:51       ` Yan Zhao
2020-07-27  7:24         ` Yan Zhao
2020-07-27 22:23           ` Alex Williamson
2020-07-29  8:05             ` Yan Zhao
2020-07-29 11:28               ` Sean Mooney
2020-07-29 19:12                 ` Alex Williamson
2020-07-30  3:41                   ` Yan Zhao
2020-07-30 13:24                     ` Sean Mooney
2020-07-30 17:29                     ` Alex Williamson
2020-08-04  8:37                       ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-05  9:44                         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-07-30  1:56                 ` Yan Zhao
2020-07-30 13:14                   ` Sean Mooney
2020-08-04 16:35               ` Cornelia Huck
2020-08-05  2:22                 ` Jason Wang
2020-08-05  2:16                   ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-05  2:41                     ` Jason Wang
2020-08-05  7:56                       ` Jiri Pirko
2020-08-05  8:02                         ` Jason Wang
2020-08-05  9:33                           ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-05 10:53                             ` Jiri Pirko
2020-08-05 11:35                               ` Sean Mooney
2020-08-07 11:59                                 ` Cornelia Huck
2020-08-13 15:33                                   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-08-13 19:02                                     ` Eric Farman
2020-08-17  6:38                                       ` Cornelia Huck
2020-08-10  7:46                               ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-13  4:24                                 ` Jason Wang
2020-08-14  5:16                                   ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-14 12:30                                     ` Sean Mooney
2020-08-17  1:52                                       ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-18  3:24                                     ` Jason Wang
2020-08-18  8:55                                       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-08-18  9:06                                         ` Cornelia Huck
2020-08-18  9:24                                           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-08-18  9:38                                             ` Cornelia Huck
     [not found]                                         ` <3a073222-dcfe-c02d-198b-29f6a507b2e1@redhat.com>
2020-08-18  9:16                                           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-08-18  9:36                                             ` Cornelia Huck
2020-08-18  9:39                                               ` Parav Pandit
2020-08-19  3:30                                                 ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-19  5:58                                                   ` Parav Pandit [this message]
2020-08-19  9:41                                                     ` Jason Wang
2020-08-19  6:57                                                   ` [ovirt-devel] " Jason Wang
2020-08-19  6:59                                                     ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-19  7:39                                                       ` Jason Wang
2020-08-19  8:13                                                         ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-19  9:28                                                           ` Jason Wang
2020-08-20 12:27                                                             ` Cornelia Huck
2020-08-21  3:14                                                               ` Jason Wang
2020-08-21 14:52                                                                 ` Cornelia Huck
2020-08-31  3:07                                                                   ` Jason Wang
2020-08-19 17:50                                                   ` Alex Williamson
2020-08-20  0:18                                                     ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-20  3:13                                                       ` Alex Williamson
2020-08-20  3:09                                                         ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-19  2:54                                               ` Jason Wang
2020-08-20  0:39                                               ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-20  1:29                                                 ` Sean Mooney
2020-08-20  4:01                                                   ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-20  5:16                                                     ` Sean Mooney
2020-08-20  6:27                                                       ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-20 13:24                                                         ` Sean Mooney
2020-08-26  8:54                                                           ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-20  3:22                                                 ` Alex Williamson
2020-08-20  3:16                                                   ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-25 14:39                                                     ` Cornelia Huck
2020-08-26  6:41                                                       ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-28 13:47                                                         ` Cornelia Huck
2020-08-28 14:04                                                           ` Sean Mooney
2020-08-31  4:43                                                             ` Yan Zhao
2020-09-08 14:41                                                               ` Cornelia Huck
2020-09-09  2:13                                                                 ` Yan Zhao
2020-09-10 12:38                                                                   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-09-10 12:50                                                                     ` Sean Mooney
2020-09-10 18:02                                                                       ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-11  0:56                                                                         ` Yan Zhao
2020-09-11 10:08                                                                           ` Cornelia Huck
2020-09-11 10:18                                                                             ` Tian, Kevin
2020-09-11 16:51                                                                           ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-14 13:48                                                                             ` Zeng, Xin
2020-09-14 14:44                                                                               ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-09  5:37                                                               ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-31  2:23                                                           ` Yan Zhao
2020-08-19  2:38                                             ` Jason Wang
2020-08-18  9:32                                           ` Parav Pandit
2020-08-19  2:45                                             ` Jason Wang
2020-08-19  5:26                                               ` Parav Pandit
2020-08-19  6:48                                                 ` Jason Wang
2020-08-19  6:53                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2020-07-29 19:05             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert

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