From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Yu-cheng Yu <yu-cheng.yu@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 01/26] Documentation/x86: Add CET description
Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 11:39:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b0581ddc-0d99-cbcf-278e-0be55ba939a0@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5cc163ff9058d1b27778e5f0a016c88a3b1a1598.camel@intel.com>
On 5/12/20 4:20 PM, Yu-cheng Yu wrote:
> On Wed, 2020-04-29 at 16:02 -0700, Yu-cheng Yu wrote:
>> On Wed, 2020-04-29 at 15:53 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
>>> On 4/29/20 3:07 PM, Yu-cheng Yu wrote:
>>>> +Note:
>>>> + There is no CET-enabling arch_prctl function. By design, CET is enabled
>>>> + automatically if the binary and the system can support it.
>>>
>>> I think Andy and I danced around this last time. Let me try to say it
>>> more explicitly.
>>>
>>> I want CET kernel enabling to able to be disconnected from the on-disk
>>> binary. I want a binary compiled with CET to be able to disable it, and
>>> I want a binary not compiled with CET to be able to enable it. I want
>>> different threads in a process to be able to each have different CET status.
>>
>> The kernel patches we have now can be modified to support this model. If after
>> discussion this is favorable, I will modify code accordingly.
>
> To turn on/off and to lock CET are application-level decisions. The kernel does
> not prevent any of those. Should there be a need to provide an arch_prctl() to
> turn on CET, it can be added without any conflict to this series.
I spelled out what I wanted pretty clearly. On your next post, could
you please directly address each of the things I asked for? Please
directly answer the following questions in your next post with respect
to the code you post:
Can a binary compiled with CET run without CET?
Can a binary compiled without CET run CET-enabled code?
Can different threads in a process have different CET enabling state?
>>> Which JITs was this tested with? I think as a bare minimum we need to
>>> know that this design can accommodate _a_ modern JIT. It would be
>>> horrible if the browser javascript engines couldn't use this design, for
>>> instance.
>>
>> JIT work is still in progress. When that is available I will test it.
>
> I found CET has been enabled in LLVM JIT, Mesa JIT as well as sljit which is
> used by jit. So the current model works with JIT.
Great! I'm glad the model works. That's not what I asked, though.
Does this *code* work? Could you please indicate which JITs have been
enabled to use the code in this series? How much of the new ABI is in use?
Where are the selftests/ for this new ABI? Were you planning on
submitting any with this series?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-15 18:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-29 22:07 [PATCH v10 00/26] Control-flow Enforcement: Shadow Stack Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 01/26] Documentation/x86: Add CET description Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:53 ` Dave Hansen
2020-04-29 23:02 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2020-05-12 23:20 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2020-05-15 18:39 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2020-05-15 21:33 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2020-05-15 22:43 ` Dave Hansen
2020-05-15 23:29 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2020-05-15 23:56 ` Dave Hansen
2020-05-16 2:51 ` H.J. Lu
2020-05-17 23:09 ` Dave Hansen
2020-05-16 2:53 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2020-05-18 13:41 ` Dave Hansen
2020-05-18 14:01 ` H.J. Lu
2020-05-18 14:26 ` Dave Hansen
2020-05-18 14:21 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2020-05-18 23:47 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2020-05-19 0:38 ` Dave Hansen
2020-05-19 1:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-20 1:04 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-29 2:08 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2020-05-16 0:13 ` Andrew Cooper
2020-05-16 2:37 ` H.J. Lu
2020-05-16 14:09 ` Andrew Cooper
2020-05-22 16:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-22 17:48 ` Andrew Cooper
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 02/26] x86/cpufeatures: Add CET CPU feature flags for Control-flow Enforcement Technology (CET) Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 03/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce CET MSR XSAVES supervisor states Yu-cheng Yu
2020-07-23 16:10 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-07-23 16:21 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 04/26] x86/cet: Add control-protection fault handler Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 05/26] x86/cet/shstk: Add Kconfig option for user-mode Shadow Stack Yu-cheng Yu
2020-05-07 15:55 ` Dave Hansen
2020-05-07 16:59 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 06/26] x86/mm: Change _PAGE_DIRTY to _PAGE_DIRTY_HW Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 07/26] x86/mm: Remove _PAGE_DIRTY_HW from kernel RO pages Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 08/26] x86/mm: Introduce _PAGE_COW Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 09/26] drm/i915/gvt: Change _PAGE_DIRTY to _PAGE_DIRTY_BITS Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 10/26] x86/mm: Update pte_modify for _PAGE_COW Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 11/26] x86/mm: Update ptep_set_wrprotect() and pmdp_set_wrprotect() for transition from _PAGE_DIRTY_HW to _PAGE_COW Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 12/26] mm: Introduce VM_SHSTK for shadow stack memory Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 13/26] x86/mm: Shadow Stack page fault error checking Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 14/26] x86/mm: Update maybe_mkwrite() for shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 15/26] mm: Fixup places that call pte_mkwrite() directly Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 16/26] mm: Add guard pages around a shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 17/26] mm/mmap: Add shadow stack pages to memory accounting Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 18/26] mm: Update can_follow_write_pte() for shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 19/26] x86/cet/shstk: User-mode shadow stack support Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 20/26] x86/cet/shstk: Handle signals for shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 21/26] ELF: UAPI and Kconfig additions for ELF program properties Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 22/26] ELF: Add ELF program property parsing support Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 23/26] ELF: Introduce arch_setup_elf_property() Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 24/26] x86/cet/shstk: ELF header parsing for shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 25/26] x86/cet/shstk: Handle thread " Yu-cheng Yu
2020-04-29 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 26/26] x86/cet/shstk: Add arch_prctl functions for " Yu-cheng Yu
2020-05-21 22:42 ` Kees Cook
2020-05-22 17:17 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2020-05-22 17:29 ` Eugene Syromiatnikov
2020-05-22 18:13 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2020-05-21 15:15 ` [PATCH v10 00/26] Control-flow Enforcement: Shadow Stack Josh Poimboeuf
2020-05-21 15:57 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2020-05-21 18:50 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-05-21 19:08 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2020-07-23 16:25 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-07-23 16:41 ` Dave Hansen
2020-07-23 16:56 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-07-23 18:41 ` Dave Hansen
2020-07-24 3:40 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2020-07-24 4:50 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-07-24 4:59 ` Sean Christopherson
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