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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: JeffleXu <jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 11/12] block: add poll_capable method to support bio-based IO polling
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 19:24:46 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YHbQ/rZUPoTFUMDs@T590> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a6d46979-810e-bc53-bc19-8acd449e3718@linux.alibaba.com>

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 04:38:25PM +0800, JeffleXu wrote:
> 
> 
> On 4/12/21 5:38 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 10:19:26AM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> >> From: Jeffle Xu <jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com>
> >>
> >> This method can be used to check if bio-based device supports IO polling
> >> or not. For mq devices, checking for hw queue in polling mode is
> >> adequate, while the sanity check shall be implementation specific for
> >> bio-based devices. For example, dm device needs to check if all
> >> underlying devices are capable of IO polling.
> >>
> >> Though bio-based device may have done the sanity check during the
> >> device initialization phase, cacheing the result of this sanity check
> >> (such as by cacheing in the queue_flags) may not work. Because for dm
> >> devices, users could change the state of the underlying devices through
> >> '/sys/block/<dev>/io_poll', bypassing the dm device above. In this case,
> >> the cached result of the very beginning sanity check could be
> >> out-of-date. Thus the sanity check needs to be done every time 'io_poll'
> >> is to be modified.
> > 
> > I really don't think thi should be a method, and I really do dislike
> > how we have all this "if (is_mq)" junk.  Why can't we have a flag on
> > the gendisk that signals if the device can support polling that
> > is autoamtically set for blk-mq and as-needed by bio based drivers?
> 
> That would consume one more bit of queue->queue_flags.
> 
> Besides, DM/MD is somehow special here that when one of the underlying
> devices is disabled polling through '/sys/block/<dev>/io_poll',
> currently there's no mechanism notifying the above MD/DM to clear the
> previously set queue_flags. Thus the outdated queue_flags still
> indicates this DM/MD is capable of polling, while in fact one of the
> underlying device has been disabled for polling.

Right, just like there isn't queue limit progagation.

Another blocker could be that bio based queue doesn't support queue
freezing.

> 
> Mike had ever suggested that we can trust the queue_flag, and clear the
> outdated queue_flags when later the IO submission or polling routine
> finally finds that the device is not capable of polling. Currently
> submit_bio_checks() will silently clear the REQ_HIPRI flag and still
> submit the bio when the device is actually not capable of polling. To
> fix the issue, could we break the submission and return an error code in
> submit_bio_checks() if the device is not capable of polling when
> submitting HIPRI bio?

I think we may just leave it alone, if underlying queue becomes not pollable,
the bio still can be submitted & completed via IRQ, just not efficient enough.


Thanks,
Ming


  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-14 11:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-01  2:19 [PATCH V5 00/12] block: support bio based io polling Ming Lei
2021-04-01  2:19 ` [PATCH V5 01/12] block: add helper of blk_queue_poll Ming Lei
2021-04-01  2:19 ` [PATCH V5 02/12] block: add one helper to free io_context Ming Lei
2021-04-01  2:19 ` [PATCH V5 03/12] block: create io poll context for submission and poll task Ming Lei
2021-04-12 10:19   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-04-01  2:19 ` [PATCH V5 04/12] block: add req flag of REQ_POLL_CTX Ming Lei
2021-04-01  2:19 ` [PATCH V5 05/12] block: add new field into 'struct bvec_iter' Ming Lei
2021-04-12  9:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-04-13  9:36     ` Ming Lei
2021-04-01  2:19 ` [PATCH V5 06/12] block/mq: extract one helper function polling hw queue Ming Lei
2021-04-12  9:29   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-04-01  2:19 ` [PATCH V5 07/12] block: prepare for supporting bio_list via other link Ming Lei
2021-04-12 10:18   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-04-12 11:37     ` Ming Lei
2021-04-01  2:19 ` [PATCH V5 08/12] block: use per-task poll context to implement bio based io polling Ming Lei
2021-04-12  9:54   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-04-12 10:20     ` Ming Lei
2021-04-12 10:29       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-04-12 11:42         ` Ming Lei
2021-04-12 10:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-04-12 10:37     ` Ming Lei
2021-04-01  2:19 ` [PATCH V5 09/12] blk-mq: limit hw queues to be polled in each blk_poll() Ming Lei
2021-04-01  2:19 ` [PATCH V5 10/12] block: add queue_to_disk() to get gendisk from request_queue Ming Lei
2021-04-12 12:52   ` Jens Axboe
2021-04-01  2:19 ` [PATCH V5 11/12] block: add poll_capable method to support bio-based IO polling Ming Lei
2021-04-12  9:38   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-04-14  8:38     ` JeffleXu
2021-04-14 11:24       ` Ming Lei [this message]
2021-04-15  1:34         ` JeffleXu
2021-04-15  7:43           ` Ming Lei
2021-04-15  9:21             ` JeffleXu
2021-04-15 10:06               ` Ming Lei
2021-04-15 11:21                 ` JeffleXu
2021-04-15 13:08                   ` Ming Lei
2021-04-16  8:00   ` [PATCH] block: introduce QUEUE_FLAG_POLL_CAP flag Jeffle Xu
2021-04-16  8:42     ` JeffleXu
2021-04-16  9:07     ` Ming Lei
2021-04-16 10:20       ` JeffleXu
2021-04-17 14:06       ` JeffleXu
2021-04-19  2:21         ` Ming Lei
2021-04-19  5:40           ` JeffleXu
2021-04-19 13:36             ` Ming Lei
2021-04-20  7:25               ` JeffleXu
2021-04-01  2:19 ` [PATCH V5 12/12] dm: support IO polling for bio-based dm device Ming Lei
2021-04-09 15:39 ` [PATCH V5 00/12] block: support bio based io polling Ming Lei
2021-04-12  9:46 ` Christoph Hellwig

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