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From: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
To: christian@brauner.io
Cc: Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.ws>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	suda.akihiro@lab.ntt.co.jp, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	linux-security-module <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 3/6] seccomp: add a way to get a listener fd from ptrace
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 18:26:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG48ez2ROhq4R1az2TXNmBvCXY=3UVxnmh6CeR05N0xVGrpwpA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181009162022.d7fd2wibyq6xi6sg@brauner.io>

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:20 PM Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 09, 2018 at 05:26:26PM +0200, Jann Horn wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 4:09 PM Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 09, 2018 at 03:50:53PM +0200, Jann Horn wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 3:49 PM Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io> wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Oct 09, 2018 at 03:36:04PM +0200, Jann Horn wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 3:29 PM Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io> wrote:
> > > > > > > One more thing. Citing from [1]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I think there's a security problem here. Imagine the following scenario:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1. task A (uid==0) sets up a seccomp filter that uses SECCOMP_RET_USER_NOTIF
> > > > > > > > 2. task A forks off a child B
> > > > > > > > 3. task B uses setuid(1) to drop its privileges
> > > > > > > > 4. task B becomes dumpable again, either via prctl(PR_SET_DUMPABLE, 1)
> > > > > > > > or via execve()
> > > > > > > > 5. task C (the attacker, uid==1) attaches to task B via ptrace
> > > > > > > > 6. task C uses PTRACE_SECCOMP_NEW_LISTENER on task B
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry, to be late to the party but would this really pass
> > > > > > > __ptrace_may_access() in ptrace_attach()? It doesn't seem obvious to me
> > > > > > > that it would... Doesn't look like it would get past:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >         tcred = __task_cred(task);
> > > > > > >         if (uid_eq(caller_uid, tcred->euid) &&
> > > > > > >             uid_eq(caller_uid, tcred->suid) &&
> > > > > > >             uid_eq(caller_uid, tcred->uid)  &&
> > > > > > >             gid_eq(caller_gid, tcred->egid) &&
> > > > > > >             gid_eq(caller_gid, tcred->sgid) &&
> > > > > > >             gid_eq(caller_gid, tcred->gid))
> > > > > > >                 goto ok;
> > > > > > >         if (ptrace_has_cap(tcred->user_ns, mode))
> > > > > > >                 goto ok;
> > > > > > >         rcu_read_unlock();
> > > > > > >         return -EPERM;
> > > > > > > ok:
> > > > > > >         rcu_read_unlock();
> > > > > > >         mm = task->mm;
> > > > > > >         if (mm &&
> > > > > > >             ((get_dumpable(mm) != SUID_DUMP_USER) &&
> > > > > > >              !ptrace_has_cap(mm->user_ns, mode)))
> > > > > > >             return -EPERM;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Which specific check would prevent task C from attaching to task B? If
> > > > > > the UIDs match, the first "goto ok" executes; and you're dumpable, so
> > > > > > you don't trigger the second "return -EPERM".
> > > > >
> > > > > You'd also need CAP_SYS_PTRACE in the mm->user_ns which you shouldn't
> > > > > have if you did a setuid to an unpriv user. (But I always find that code
> > > > > confusing.)
> > > >
> > > > Only if the target hasn't gone through execve() since setuid().
> > >
> > > Sorry if I want to know this in excessive detail but I'd like to
> > > understand this properly so bear with me :)
> > > - If task B has setuid()ed and prctl(PR_SET_DUMPABLE, 1)ed but not
> > >   execve()ed then C won't pass ptrace_has_cap(mm->user_ns, mode).
> >
> > Yeah.
> >
> > > - If task B has setuid()ed, exeved()ed it will get its dumpable flag set
> > >   to /proc/sys/fs/suid_dumpable
> >
> > Not if you changed all UIDs (e.g. by calling setuid() as root). In
> > that case, setup_new_exec() calls "set_dumpable(current->mm,
> > SUID_DUMP_USER)".
>
> Actually, looking at this when C is trying to PTRACE_ATTACH to B as an
> unprivileged user even if B execve()ed and it is dumpable C still
> wouldn't have CAP_SYS_PTRACE in the mm->user_ns unless it already is
> privileged over mm->user_ns which means it must be in an ancestor
> user_ns.

Huh? Why would you need CAP_SYS_PTRACE for anything here? You can
ptrace another process running under your UID just fine, no matter
what the namespaces are. I'm not sure what you're saying.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-09 23:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-27 15:11 [PATCH v7 0/6] seccomp trap to userspace Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 15:11 ` [PATCH v7 1/6] seccomp: add a return code to " Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 21:31   ` Kees Cook
2018-09-27 22:48     ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 23:10       ` Kees Cook
2018-09-28 14:39         ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-08 14:58       ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-09 14:28         ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-09 16:24           ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-09 16:29             ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-17 20:29     ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-17 22:21       ` Kees Cook
2018-10-17 22:33         ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-21 16:04         ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-22  9:42           ` Christian Brauner
2018-09-27 21:51   ` Jann Horn
2018-09-27 22:45     ` Kees Cook
2018-09-27 23:08       ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 23:04     ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 23:37       ` Jann Horn
2018-09-29  0:28   ` Aleksa Sarai
2018-09-27 15:11 ` [PATCH v7 2/6] seccomp: make get_nth_filter available outside of CHECKPOINT_RESTORE Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 16:51   ` Jann Horn
2018-09-27 21:42   ` Kees Cook
2018-10-08 13:55   ` Christian Brauner
2018-09-27 15:11 ` [PATCH v7 3/6] seccomp: add a way to get a listener fd from ptrace Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 16:20   ` Jann Horn
2018-09-27 16:34     ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 17:35   ` Jann Horn
2018-09-27 18:09     ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 21:53   ` Kees Cook
2018-10-08 15:16   ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-08 15:33     ` Jann Horn
2018-10-08 16:21       ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-08 16:42         ` Jann Horn
2018-10-08 18:18           ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-09 12:39             ` Jann Horn
2018-10-09 13:28               ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-09 13:36                 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-09 13:49                   ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-09 13:50                     ` Jann Horn
2018-10-09 14:09                       ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-09 15:26                         ` Jann Horn
2018-10-09 16:20                           ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-09 16:26                             ` Jann Horn [this message]
2018-10-10 12:54                               ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-10 13:09                                 ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-10 13:10                                 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-10 13:18                                   ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-10 15:31                   ` Paul Moore
2018-10-10 15:33                     ` Jann Horn
2018-10-10 15:39                       ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-10 16:54                         ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-10 17:15                           ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-10 17:26                             ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-10 18:28                               ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-11  7:24                       ` Paul Moore
2018-10-11 13:39                         ` Jann Horn
2018-10-11 23:10                           ` Paul Moore
2018-10-12  1:02                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-12 20:02                               ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-12 20:06                                 ` Jann Horn
2018-10-12 20:11                                 ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-08 18:00     ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-08 18:41       ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-10 17:45       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-10 18:26         ` Christian Brauner
2018-09-27 15:11 ` [PATCH v7 4/6] files: add a replace_fd_files() function Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 16:49   ` Jann Horn
2018-09-27 18:04     ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 21:59   ` Kees Cook
2018-09-28  2:20     ` Kees Cook
2018-09-28  2:46       ` Jann Horn
2018-09-28  5:23       ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 15:11 ` [PATCH v7 5/6] seccomp: add a way to pass FDs via a notification fd Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 16:39   ` Jann Horn
2018-09-27 22:13     ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 19:28   ` Jann Horn
2018-09-27 22:14     ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 22:17       ` Jann Horn
2018-09-27 22:49         ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 22:09   ` Kees Cook
2018-09-27 22:15     ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 15:11 ` [PATCH v7 6/6] samples: add an example of seccomp user trap Tycho Andersen
2018-09-27 22:11   ` Kees Cook
2018-09-28 21:57 ` [PATCH v7 0/6] seccomp trap to userspace Michael Kerrisk (man-opages)
2018-09-28 22:03   ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-28 22:16     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2018-09-28 22:34       ` Kees Cook
2018-09-28 22:46         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2018-09-28 22:48           ` Jann Horn

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