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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
Cc: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
	Andrey Albershteyn <aalbersh@redhat.com>,
	fsverity@lists.linux.dev, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, chandan.babu@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 06/24] fsverity: pass tree_blocksize to end_enable_verity()
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2024 08:34:51 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZeuEe7qpNYaIll7L@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240308034650.GK1927156@frogsfrogsfrogs>

On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 07:46:50PM -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 02:02:24PM -0800, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 08:30:00AM -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > Or you could leave the unfinished tree as-is; that will waste space, but
> > > if userspace tries again, the xattr code will replace the old merkle
> > > tree block contents with the new ones.  This assumes that we're not
> > > using XATTR_CREATE during FS_IOC_ENABLE_VERITY.
> > 
> > This should work, though if the file was shrunk between the FS_IOC_ENABLE_VERITY
> > that was interrupted and the one that completed, there may be extra Merkle tree
> > blocks left over.
> 
> What if ->enable_begin walked the xattrs and trimmed out any verity
> xattrs that were already there?  Though I think ->enable_end actually
> could do this since one of the args is the tree size, right?

If we are overwriting xattrs, it's effectively a remove then a new
create operation, so we may as well just add a XFS_ATTR_VERITY
namespace invalidation filter that removes any xattr in that
namespace in ->enable_begin...

> > BTW, is xfs_repair planned to do anything about any such extra blocks?
> 
> Sorry to answer your question with a question, but how much checking is
> $filesystem expected to do for merkle trees?
> 
> In theory xfs_repair could learn how to interpret the verity descriptor,
> walk the merkle tree blocks, and even read the file data to confirm
> intactness.  If the descriptor specifies the highest block address then
> we could certainly trim off excess blocks.  But I don't know how much of
> libfsverity actually lets you do that; I haven't looked into that
> deeply. :/

Perhaps a generic fsverity userspace checking library we can link in
to fs utilities like e2fsck and xfs_repair is the way to go here.
That way any filesystem that supports fsverity can do offline
validation of the merkle tree after checking the metadata is OK if
desired.

> For xfs_scrub I guess the job is theoretically simpler, since we only
> need to stream reads of the verity files through the page cache and let
> verity tell us if the file data are consistent.

*nod*

> For both tools, if something finds errors in the merkle tree structure
> itself, do we turn off verity?  Or do we do something nasty like
> truncate the file?

Mark it as "data corrupt" in terms of generic XFS health status, and
leave it up to the user to repair the data and/or recalc the merkle
tree, depending on what they find when they look at the corrupt file
status.

> Is there an ioctl or something that allows userspace to validate an
> entire file's contents?  Sort of like what BLKVERIFY would have done for
> block devices, except that we might believe its answers?
> 
> Also -- inconsistencies between the file data and the merkle tree aren't
> something that xfs can self-heal, right?

Not that I know of - the file data has to be validated before we can
tell if the error is in the data or the merkle tree, and only the
user can validate the data is correct.

-Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-03-08 21:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-04 19:10 [PATCH v5 00/24] fs-verity support for XFS Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v5 01/24] fsverity: remove hash page spin lock Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v5 02/24] xfs: add parent pointer support to attribute code Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v5 03/24] xfs: define parent pointer ondisk extended attribute format Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v5 04/24] xfs: add parent pointer validator functions Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v5 05/24] fs: add FS_XFLAG_VERITY for verity files Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-04 22:35   ` Eric Biggers
2024-03-07 21:39     ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-07 22:06       ` Eric Biggers
2024-03-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v5 06/24] fsverity: pass tree_blocksize to end_enable_verity() Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-05  0:52   ` Eric Biggers
2024-03-06 16:30     ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-07 22:02       ` Eric Biggers
2024-03-08  3:46         ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-08  4:40           ` Eric Biggers
2024-03-11 22:38             ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-12 15:13               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-12 15:33                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-12 16:44                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-13 12:29                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-13 17:19                       ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-13 19:10                         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-13 21:03                           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-08 21:34           ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2024-03-09 16:19             ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v5 07/24] fsverity: support block-based Merkle tree caching Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-06  3:56   ` Eric Biggers
2024-03-07 21:54     ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-07 22:49       ` Eric Biggers
2024-03-08  3:50         ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-09 16:24           ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-11 23:22   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v5 08/24] fsverity: add per-sb workqueue for post read processing Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-05  1:08   ` Eric Biggers
2024-03-07 21:58     ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-07 22:26       ` Eric Biggers
2024-03-08  3:53         ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-07 22:55       ` Dave Chinner
2024-03-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v5 09/24] fsverity: add tracepoints Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-05  0:33   ` Eric Biggers
2024-03-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v5 10/24] iomap: integrate fs-verity verification into iomap's read path Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-04 23:39   ` Eric Biggers
2024-03-07 22:06     ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-07 22:19       ` Eric Biggers
2024-03-07 23:38     ` Dave Chinner
2024-03-07 23:45       ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-08  0:47         ` Dave Chinner
2024-03-07 23:59       ` Eric Biggers
2024-03-08  1:20         ` Dave Chinner
2024-03-08  3:16           ` Eric Biggers
2024-03-08  3:57             ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-08  3:22           ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v5 11/24] xfs: add XBF_VERITY_SEEN xfs_buf flag Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-07 22:46   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-08  1:59     ` Dave Chinner
2024-03-08  3:31       ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-09 16:28         ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-11  0:26           ` Dave Chinner
2024-03-11 15:25             ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-12  2:43               ` Eric Biggers
2024-03-12  4:15                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-12  2:45               ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-12  7:01                 ` Dave Chinner
2024-03-12 20:04                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-12 21:45                     ` Dave Chinner
2024-03-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v5 12/24] xfs: add XFS_DA_OP_BUFFER to make xfs_attr_get() return buffer Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v5 13/24] xfs: add attribute type for fs-verity Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v5 14/24] xfs: make xfs_buf_get() to take XBF_* flags Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v5 15/24] xfs: add XBF_DOUBLE_ALLOC to increase size of the buffer Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v5 16/24] xfs: add fs-verity ro-compat flag Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v5 17/24] xfs: add inode on-disk VERITY flag Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-07 22:06   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v5 18/24] xfs: initialize fs-verity on file open and cleanup on inode destruction Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-07 22:09   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v5 19/24] xfs: don't allow to enable DAX on fs-verity sealsed inode Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-07 22:09   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v5 20/24] xfs: disable direct read path for fs-verity files Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-07 22:11   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-12 12:02     ` Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-12 16:36       ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v5 21/24] xfs: add fs-verity support Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-06  4:55   ` Eric Biggers
2024-03-06  5:01     ` Eric Biggers
2024-03-07 23:10   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v5 22/24] xfs: make scrub aware of verity dinode flag Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-07 22:18   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-12 12:10     ` Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-12 16:38       ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-13  1:35         ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v5 23/24] xfs: add fs-verity ioctls Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-07 22:14   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-03-12 12:42     ` Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-04 19:10 ` [PATCH v5 24/24] xfs: enable ro-compat fs-verity flag Andrey Albershteyn
2024-03-07 22:16   ` Darrick J. Wong

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