From: Andrew Murray <andrew.murray@arm.com>
To: Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@gmail.com>
Cc: Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
Marek Vasut <marek.vasut+renesas@gmail.com>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>,
linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org, Robin.Murphy@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 2/3] PCI: rcar: Do not abort on too many inbound dma-ranges
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 14:19:07 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191107141906.GB43905@e119886-lin.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9c46a2d2-00bd-3854-8060-fc7389751f3f@gmail.com>
On Thu, Nov 07, 2019 at 12:37:44AM +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
> On 10/26/19 10:36 PM, Andrew Murray wrote:
> [...]>> But this still leaves me with one open question -- how do I
> figure out
> >> what to program into the PCI controller inbound windows, so that the
> >> controller correctly filters inbound transfers which are targetting
> >> nonexisting memory ?
> >
> > Your driver should program into the RC->CPU windows, the exact ranges
> > described in the dma-ranges. Whilst also respecting the alignment and
> > max-size rules your controller has (e.g. the existing upstream logic
> > and also the new logic that recalculates the alignment per entry).
> >
> > As far as I can tell from looking at your U-Boot patch, I think I'd expect
> > a single dma-range to be presented in the DT, that describes
> > 0:0xFFFFFFFF => 0:0xFFFFFFFF. This is because 1) I understand your
> > controller is limited to 32 bits. And 2) there is a linear mapping between
> > PCI and CPU addresses (given that the second and third arguments on
> > pci_set_region are both the same).
> >
> > As you point out, this range includes lots of things that you don't
> > want the RC to touch - such as non-existent memory. This is OK, when
> > Linux programs addresses into the various EP's for them to DMA to host
> > memory, it uses its own logic to select addresses that are in RAM, the
> > purpose of the dma-range is to describe what the CPU RAM address looks
> > like from the perspective of the RC (for example if the RC was wired
> > with an offset such that made memory writes from the RC made to
> > 0x00000000 end up on the system map at 0x80000000, we need to tell Linux
> > about this offset. Otherwise when a EP device driver programs a DMA
> > address of a RAM buffer at 0x90000000, it'll end up targetting
> > 0x110000000. Thankfully our dma-range will tell Linux to apply an offset
> > such that the actual address written to the EP is 0x10000000.).
>
> I understand that Linux programs the endpoints correctly. However this
> still doesn't prevent the endpoint from being broken and from sending a
> transaction to that non-existent memory.
Correct.
> The PCI controller can prevent
> that and in an automotive SoC, I would very much like the PCI controller
> to do just that, rather than hope that the endpoint would always work.
OK I understand - At least when working on the assumption that your RC will
block RC->CPU transactions that are not described in any of it's windows.
Thus you want to use the dma-ranges as a means to configure your controller
to do this.
What actually happens if you have a broken endpoint that reads/writes to
non-existent memory on this hardware? Ideally the RC would generate a
CA or UR back to the endpoint - does something else happen? Lockup, dead RC,
performance issues?
Using built-in features of the RC to prevent it from sending transactions
to non-existent addresses is clearly helpful. But of course it doesn't stop
a broken EP from writing to existent addresses, so only provides limited
protection.
Despite the good intentions here, it doesn't seem like dma-ranges is
designed for this purpose and as the hardware has limited ranges it will
only be best-effort.
Thanks,
Andrew Murray
>
> > In your case the dma-range also serves to describe a limit to the range
> > of addresses we can reach.
>
> [...]
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Marek Vasut
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-11-07 14:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-09 17:57 [PATCH V3 1/3] PCI: rcar: Move the inbound index check marek.vasut
2019-08-09 17:57 ` [PATCH V3 2/3] PCI: rcar: Do not abort on too many inbound dma-ranges marek.vasut
2019-08-16 13:23 ` Simon Horman
2019-08-16 13:28 ` Marek Vasut
2019-08-16 13:38 ` Simon Horman
2019-08-16 17:41 ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-21 10:18 ` Andrew Murray
2019-10-26 18:03 ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-26 20:36 ` Andrew Murray
2019-10-26 21:06 ` Andrew Murray
2019-11-06 23:37 ` Marek Vasut
2019-11-07 14:19 ` Andrew Murray [this message]
2019-11-16 15:48 ` Marek Vasut
2019-11-18 18:42 ` Robin Murphy
2019-12-22 7:46 ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-16 15:00 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-10-16 15:10 ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-16 15:26 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-10-16 15:29 ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-16 16:18 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-10-16 18:12 ` Rob Herring
2019-10-16 18:17 ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-16 20:25 ` Rob Herring
2019-10-16 21:15 ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-16 22:26 ` Rob Herring
2019-10-16 22:33 ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-17 7:06 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-10-17 10:55 ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-17 13:06 ` Robin Murphy
2019-10-17 14:00 ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-17 14:36 ` Rob Herring
2019-10-17 15:01 ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-18 9:53 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-10-18 12:22 ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-18 12:53 ` Robin Murphy
2019-10-18 14:26 ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-18 15:44 ` Robin Murphy
2019-10-18 16:44 ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-18 17:35 ` Robin Murphy
2019-10-18 18:44 ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-21 8:32 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-11-19 12:10 ` Robin Murphy
2019-10-18 10:06 ` Andrew Murray
2019-10-18 10:17 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-10-18 11:40 ` Andrew Murray
2019-08-09 17:57 ` [PATCH V3 3/3] PCI: rcar: Recalculate inbound range alignment for each controller entry marek.vasut
2019-10-21 10:39 ` Andrew Murray
2019-08-16 10:52 ` [PATCH V3 1/3] PCI: rcar: Move the inbound index check Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-08-16 10:59 ` Marek Vasut
2019-08-16 11:10 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-10-15 20:14 ` Marek Vasut
2019-10-21 10:11 ` Andrew Murray
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